Haitian illegals can stay

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Twoller

The thing to watch here is what exactly qualifies as "temporary". At some point, the situation in Haiti will have to be considered to have returned to the basket case state it was before the quake. No doubt they have will have a lot of aid money and will be putting natives to work, we hope, and we can issue a similar pretext to throw them out.

The real question here is exactly how aggressively were we throwing out illegal Haitians anyway?

Haitians basically control the heroin importation all up and down the east coast, so we weren't doing a whole lot about illegal haitians to begin with. How long will it last? Well, how long did it last for the Honduran refugees from Hurricaine Mitch in 1998. That's still going on.

We're still processing new applications for amnesty under the 1986 rules!

[Rim05]

Haitians basically control the heroin importation all up and down the east coast, so we weren't doing a whole lot about illegal haitians to begin with. How long will it last? Well, how long did it last for the Honduran refugees from Hurricaine Mitch in 1998. That's still going on.

We're still processing new applications for amnesty under the 1986 rules!

Now we know the Mexican Drug Cartels do not control all the drugs. Thanks.

[Twoller]

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2450468

Canada relaxes immigration rules for Haitians devastated by earthquake

Jorge Barrera and Linda Nguyen, Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, January 15, 2010

PORT-AU-PRINCE -- As evacuees returned to Canada from Haiti on Saturday, the federal government relaxed this country's immigration rules to make it easier for Canadians to sponsor family members living in the earthquake-torn nation.

At a news conference in Ottawa, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said Canada will give "priority" to Haitians who want to come to this country, if they can show that they were "severely affected"by the 7.0-magnitude earthquake that struck the Caribbean island Tuesday.

The new rules will also apply to Canadian families who want to adopt Haitian children, in hopes of speeding up the process, said Kenney.

All immigrants must still qualify under Canadian immigration standards, but will have their cases looked at more quickly.

Kenney said temporary residents already in Canada from Haiti, including students and workers, will automatically have their visas and permits extended temporarily in the wake of the largest earthquake to hit Port-au-Prince in almost two centuries.

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More at the above link.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Rim05

Now we know the Mexican Drug Cartels do not control all the drugs. Thanks.

You don't hear too much about it, but there's lots of killing in Puerto Rico over cocaine.

[Rim05]

You don't hear too much about it, but there's lots of killing in Puerto Rico over cocaine.

You are correct, I don't know anything about Puerto Rico except where it is on the map. That is not a smart reply just the truth.

[Twoller]

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...-bad-laws.aspx

Marni Soupcoff: Earthquakes make bad laws

Posted: January 18, 2010, 9:30 AM by NP Editor
Marni Soupcoff

The devastation in Haiti is breaking the world’s heart. Politicians, media commentators and ordinary Canadians are all looking for ways to help the earthquake victims. The instinct is natural, good, commendable and wholesome — but it’s producing several bad ideas.

Canada’s government is suggesting that significantly relaxing requirements (family-reunification requirements, in particular) for Haitians to come here as immigrants and refugees would be a good way for us to lend a hand. They should know better. For reasons obvious to anyone familiar with the Mariel boatlift (in which Fidel Castro emptied his jails, and the U.S. was suddenly flooded with a host of Cuban refugees who... well, just see Scarface), issuing a blanket welcome to all citizens of another country is a dangerous proposition.

But even if some of the Haitians who’d be granted status here would be criminals, and we’d strain to fund the extensive health care, housing and social assistance they would need, it would still be a good deal for the wretched of the Earth, right?

Not necessarily: The move would be tantamount to a lottery — one that ignores the massive problems faced by all the other millions of human beings the world over who suffer in equally perilous and excruciating circumstances.

Why would we choose to embrace a crushed, suffering individual from Haiti over a crushed, suffering individual from Darfur, where hundreds of thousands have died? Or Congo, where millions have perished? Because the pictures from Haiti are more graphic and top of mind? Because on a gut level we’re more sympathetic to the casualties of natural disasters than we are to the casualties of man-made conflicts?

Our immigration system is supposed to reflect our priorities and choices about who gets to come to, and stay in, Canada. The system includes refugee provisions to protect people who are at risk of political persecution in their home countries. The victims of Haiti’s earthquake don’t fall into this category. In fact, there is no legal provision in Canada, or any other nation I know of, that systematically admits foreigners simply on the basis that their nation is poor, dysfunctional and afflicted by tragedy. If there were such a provision, literally billions of people from all over sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia would be entitled to enter Canada tomorrow.

If we admit thousands of Haitian immigrants now, we’ll feel good about ourselves for a few months, and help some people. But what happens the next time there is an earthquake — or a war, typhoon, tsunami, or drought? What happens when those victims come knocking? On what basis do we say no?

Hard cases make bad laws, as they say. The same principle applies to natural disasters: Horrible calamities lead to misguided policies.

In the short term, we should do everything we can to bring life-saving food and medical care to Haiti. But changing our immigration system’s rules — or creating massive, on-the-fly loopholes to existing rules — isn’t something that should be done while images of the dead still appear on our front pages. Instead, our lawmakers should think carefully about whether, in light of this tragedy and others like it, our system needs changing. Any changes we do make should be rules of general application — applying to the victims of this and future crises in equal measure.

Our reaction to the Haitians’ plight is a reminder that we care. The best way to put that care to good use is to ensure our immigration system truly reflects our values.

National Post
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[Eagle1]

The Obama administration may be looking at Haitians brought to the USA because of the hardships and devastation in that country as possible future voters for the Socialist/Marxist cause in the USA.

[Kathy63]

Haitian illegals can stay. We're bringing in tens of thousands of children, now we're bringing in others. 40,000 in the first wave.

We are importing our own demise.

[retiredat44]

Originally Posted by Eagle1

The Obama administration may be looking at Haitians brought to the USA because of the hardships and devastation in that country as possible future voters for the Socialist/Marxist cause in the USA.

you have that right.. I don't remember hearing about how much good they are for our country either...
You want to see how people are, just walk through their country, city , or neighborhood, and that is the type of life you would live if they live by you..