Joe Turner Shows True motives

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by Rim05

Again, this is a personal opinion. I don't pull punches when I believe I, or we, have been used and sold out for the benefit of some single person. A lot of us have risked life and liberty in the this immigration effort, and when I see people profiting, or trying to from it, I get really angry. It is precisely the same behavior we find in so very many of the politicians we so revile in the state house and the federal government. They say what we want to hear, but their later actions show their true motives.

I disagree with what you are saying about Joe. First, I will tell you that I do not know what I am to Joe but I am a friend to him, always have been. Always will be. If not for Joe starting the first SOS, NONE of us would be here today.
I found Joe to be very well informed and he knew the members who were present. One day I said "I don't know if you remember me " and started to tell him my name. He said I know who you are.
He always had time to talk to every one as far as I could tell. He never cut any one short.

Joe did not start the first SOS. He started the street activism.

[wetibbe]

I'm looking into everything and I will be back with more in due course.

In the meantime keep the chin up and continue vigorously.

[wetibbe]

Well, Folks, it seems that there has been a change. The above link, Saveourstate.org no longer takes a person to the "world apps" site like before. It now opens a blog page.

There is also a write up on Wikipedia. It seems rather old and dated.

Not much else on Google. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...urner+from+sos

It's predominantly yesterdays newspaper dating back around 2005.

[Rim05]

And Joe sat back and did nothing while the cockroach spoke ill of many of us, right? I know I asked for him to intervene several times. He did not, and wouldn't respond.

I know that you and your wife have had health problems lately but, I need to respond to you.
I have made you aware of the of the things that have been happening to me by ONE member here. You have done nothing as far as I can see.
You say a lot of things about Chalene but she was always there if I ask her for something. I never ask Joe for any thing.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Rim05

And Joe sat back and did nothing while the cockroach spoke ill of many of us, right? I know I asked for him to intervene several times. He did not, and wouldn't respond.

I know that you and your wife have had health problems lately but, I need to respond to you.
I have made you aware of the of the things that have been happening to me by ONE member here. You have done nothing as far as I can see.
You say a lot of things about Chalene but she was always there if I ask her for something. I never ask Joe for any thing.

Little bit different here Rim. No one has silenced you here. You have always been free to defend yourself. I'm not sure what you'd have me do. You and Jean have a difference of opinion, and it would be equally as wrong for me to try and silence her, as it would to silence you.
In the case of Chelene, she banned me and then spread all kinds of vile falsehoods about me and what had happened.
You know what? I think we all need a refresher on the past. I've been sitting on the old forum database for too long. It's time to bring our history back so everyone can see it again.

And thanks for your concern. My wife is doing terrific now. the tables are turned now, and she's taking care of me. But there's no reason to pull punches if you have something to say. I have good days; I have bad days. No need to worry about offending me. I still dish out some sheet on my good days. I'm not dead yet

[Rim05]

Little bit different here Rim. No one has silenced you here. You have always been free to defend yourself. I'm not sure what you'd have me do. You and Jean have a difference of opinion, and it would be equally as wrong for me to try and silence her, as it would to silence you.
In the case of Chelene, she banned me and then spread all kinds of vile falsehoods about me and what had happened.
You know what? I think we all need a refresher on the past. I've been sitting on the old forum database for too long. It's time to bring our history back so everyone can see it again.

And thanks for your concern. My wife is doing terrific now. the tables are turned now, and she's taking care of me. But there's no reason to pull punches if you have something to say. I have good days; I have bad days. No need to worry about offending me. I still dish out some sheet on my good days. I'm not dead yet

[Rim05]

Little bit different here Rim. No one has silenced you here. You have always been free to defend yourself. I'm not sure what you'd have me do. You and Jean have a difference of opinion, and it would be equally as wrong for me to try and silence her, as it would to silence you.
In the case of Chelene, she banned me and then spread all kinds of vile falsehoods about me and what had happened.
You know what? I think we all need a refresher on the past. I've been sitting on the old forum database for too long. It's time to bring our history back so everyone can see it again.

And thanks for your concern. My wife is doing terrific now. the tables are turned now, and she's taking care of me. But there's no reason to pull punches if you have something to say. I have good days; I have bad days. No need to worry about offending me. I still dish out some sheet on my good days. I'm not dead yet


I am really sorry about the health problem. It happens to all of at some time. Hope you will be better soon.

Here it is that Jean is a true Bully. Also my parents taught all of their kids to be polite and not go out in public and make a fool of them and our selves. That is true here also. We are not supposed to be fighting, we are suppose to be helping each other. I can stand with any resonoble person but I cannot say that for every one.
Too early in the morning but I am sure I will be back soon, as well as the Bully.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

Well, Folks, it seems that there has been a change. The above link, Saveourstate.org no longer takes a person to the "world apps" site like before. It now opens a blog page.
.

I've been following that. It appears he changed it. Possibly reading here. really don't know what he's up to, but we're still reviewing our options.