See. THIS is how it's done.

[Twoller]

Agriculture does seem to play a dominant role. But it's the worse kind of agriculture. It's stuff nobody really needs. Just condiments, extras, fruits and vegetables. In Italy it is oranges. Are oranges really worth having an alien population just move in squat somewhere and cause trouble? I don't think so.

And also organized crime is playing a role. Like in the US, we are obliged to believe that this illegals are sending money back to their home countries. But meanwhile, they had to pay some gangster to get here. They are not continuing to pay some gangster and lie about sending money back home?

[usa today]

If it was just Ag it wouldn't be half the problem that it is.

Now though whole industries , the few we have left are being taken over by illegals , grocery and meat packing , construction , service , etc.

Just as an example , fast food , certainly not a career job for most but still it was a gateway job for our high school kids and people going into entry level jobs , now its almost all illegals and anchors ,

Also most meat packing was a union job , bennys and good pay , around $20 hour , now its all 8$ and hour illegals and no bennys , have you seen the price of meat lately ? we are not getting any benefit from that cheap labor.

Vegas is a prime example , Many of the hotel / casino service jobs were held by Blacks here, they were pretty decent jobs also, Now illegals do those jobs at less money and the Blacks here all collect welfare.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by usa today

If it was just Ag it wouldn't be half the problem that it is.

Now though whole industries , the few we have left are being taken over by illegals , grocery and meat packing , construction , service , etc.

Just as an example , fast food , certainly not a career job for most but still it was a gateway job for our high school kids and people going into entry level jobs , now its almost all illegals and anchors ,

Also most meat packing was a union job , bennys and good pay , around $20 hour , now its all 8$ and hour illegals and no bennys , have you seen the price of meat lately ? we are not getting any benefit from that cheap labor.

Vegas is a prime example , Many of the hotel / casino service jobs were held by Blacks here, they were pretty decent jobs also, Now illegals do those jobs at less money and the Blacks here all collect welfare.

Yes you're correct, but many of those workers are brought in through the guest worker visas. And traditionally the ag jobs have always been done this way, not so much for the others. But with the ag jobs they don't stay and continue to work there, they leave and try to find better paying work like those you describe once did. And with those other jobs they often stay longer, because the work is steady. Ag jobs, like construction are dependent on the weather and sometimes you don't work for days. But construction pays better and thus many can afford the time not worked. So ag workers try much sooner to find other work.

[usa today]

Thats why any ag jobs bill will be a failure

They will use it to get status but they won't be picking grapes very long and they will be out stealing jobs Americans use to do