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Old 03-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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I listened to the whole interview and now I wish to comment.

Overall I give it high marks. Although I knew basically almost all of the scenarios that Jim Gilchrist discussed there were details in the interview that were very interesting. And that shocked me. Some good some not so good.

Generally I will say that I am a big supporter of SOS and Jim Gilchrist.

Walking through his expressed future plans for the border initiative, I am sorry to say that between the Simcox fiasco and the Gilchrist debacle, as he explained, the probabilities of donors/contributors has probably turned off most. The slime that is lurking in both cases indicates that if we grant amnesty to both parties and acknowledge that both were good guys duped and victimized the monies sent did not get expended in any beneficial manner to the border issue. In one way or another the wrong parties *( and I avoid calling them parasites ) pocketed the proceeds. I was not reassured frankly, that my dollars sent will not end up in the pockets of attorneys defending Jim's problems and litigious endeavors.

As a collaborator with law enforcement it pains me deeply to say that Janet Neapolitan as well as the BATF have so seriously compromised themselves that I can no longer support either. And I am indisposed to elaborate.

On the matter of Jim Gilchrist's two proposed choices, occupy a mountain range with 200 combat ready veterans or 2,000 border watchers. Note that:

Cochise county sheriff is Larry Dever, a Republican and named a co-sponsor of John McCain's 10 point border program.

Tony Estrada is the Santa Cruz county sheriff where the Brian Terry shooting occurred.

Clarence Dupnik is a Democrat and Sheriff of Pima County. Opposed to AZ SB 1070. Not a friend.

Paul Babeu is sheriff of Pinal County. Republican and overall good guy leader in the interdiction efforts.

Jim will be very well advised to touch base with these Sheriffs.

There are other local border groups not mentioned whose members can contribute materially to the effort.

Jim should NOT expect a warm welcome with open arms from Arizona law enforcement without integrating.

Suffice it to say that there are many operations ongoing that need to be informed and apprised. Not the least of which are the CBP SWATS.

Particularly be aware that the mountain top/mountain range lay up areas are occupied by cartel lookouts. Sheriff Joe Arpaio possesses the locations, photos and GPS coordinates.

Of particularly important consideration are any encounters with the Cartel hit squads, The Minuteman should ALWAYS team in at least twos. Witnesses to any shootings are absolutely vital as the invaders are trained to lie and fabricate.

The Minutemen should anticipate being sued by the left, liberal scum in the event of any incidents. Thus it is important to keep close communication with CBP, Border Patrol, ICE and DHS

Personally I support this endeavor and salute Jim Gilchrist as a great American patriot. By affiliation I am bound to lecture on the importance of abiding by existing laws.
This movement is in need of fresh blood. Because of all the past, and still on-going turmoil, every group needs to re-organize (less the current so-called leaders) and realign themselves as allies. It is not the fault of the members that caused all the turmoil, it is the so-called leadership that did so. Obviously, based on Jim's interview, the old and stagnated egotistical leaders will not come together let alone try and make amends. This means the movement cannot move forward as a whole supporting one another.

Jim's original minuteman project was noble and brought much needed attention to the issues.... with that said, I don't see it moving forward nor do I see any chance of getting 200 former Marines together to observe the border from mountain tops for 30 days.

I do believe people should still go to the border to deter, observe, and report. Given the on going drug war in Mexico, any border operations need to be done with safety in mind.
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:39 AM
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This movement is in need of fresh blood. Because of all the past, and still on-going turmoil, every group needs to re-organize (less the current so-called leaders) and realign themselves as allies. It is not the fault of the members that caused all the turmoil, it is the so-called leadership that did so....

I do believe people should still go to the border to deter, observe, and report. Given the on going drug war in Mexico, any border operations need to be done with safety in mind.
Interesting, very interesting. I believe that this could be the future of this movement.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:05 AM
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Here are better links :

Foreign LP/OP's map -Lay up areas - http://www.vdare.com/misc/070414_numbersUSA.htm

Also: http://www.vdare.com/misc/070414_pow...iles/frame.htm * ( Slide #30 ).

Photo slide show of areas and GPS coordinates - http://www.vdare.com/misc/070414_pow...iles/frame.htm



NumbersUSA, January 2007 Five federal agencies independently confirmed the presence of armed, military- or police-trained, illegal aliens at LP/OPs on hilltops throughout southern Arizona, up to 200 miles north of the border. They function as lookouts to warn drug and alien smugglers of approaching U.S. law enforcement to ensure safe passage of the shipment. They are paid by Mexican cartels for each vehicle that they successfully guide past their position. The federal agencies that confirmed their presence are: Customs and Border Protection (CBP); Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS); Forest Service; National Park Service (NPS); and Bureau of Land Management (BLM

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Old 03-31-2011, 08:18 AM
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Sheriff Arpaio is forming up an aerial posse.

If the Minuteman Project can muster up they may want to contact the sheriff to ascertain if there is any room of volunteers on the ground. This may not fit Jim Gilchrist's schedule and the effort may lack funding. But the opportunity is there. Lets hope the Patriot Minutemen will put on their thinking caps and make something happen. *( Can some of you Californians run this by Jim Gilchrist ) ?

Sheriff's Posse Launches Air Operation

Updated: Tuesday, 29 Mar 2011, 11:10 PM MDT
Published : Tuesday, 29 Mar 2011, 7:05 PM MDT



PHOENIX - Maricopa County Sheriff's posse members are taking to the skies to fight illegal immigration and other related crimes.

As many as 30 pilots will donate their planes and their time to patrol the southern border of Maricopa County.

If they see any illegal activity like drug smuggling, they'll radio it into deputies on the ground.

The planes fly high enough that it is hard for people on the ground to hear them. But pilots say it's easy to spot illegal activity from the air.

"I think everyone owes the country something," says Phil Laker, who has been flying with the posse since 2001. "Whatever fits the individual and this fits me. This is something I can do." Perhaps donors could send money to the Sheriff or a special safe fund.

It's the latest crime suppression operation by Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

"We're going to use our automatic weapons if we have to, and I'm tired of my deputies having to chase these people and I'm sure the air posse will be able to spot these guys running as they do constantly from us," says Arpaio.

The effort is called "Operation Desert Sky." It'll be going on for several weeks.

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Old 04-08-2011, 06:21 AM
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Default Citizens still volunteering on the border

Glad to hear patriotic citizens are still volunteering their time on the border.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:51 AM
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For my dear friends on the west coast permit me to introduce a dear friend and phenomenal patriot in my adjacent state of New Jersey. Ron and I have be over the road for many years. His efforts are legendary in our area.

Hands and hands from the East Coast to the West Coast, together in the common effort.

You can follow his website at:

http://www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.c...7/default.aspx

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Old 04-09-2011, 10:03 AM
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Hi Bill
Thanks for your comments.
It's time to go "back to the border"
Best patriotic regards
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Old 04-09-2011, 05:39 PM
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Sheriff Arpaio is forming up an aerial posse.

If the Minuteman Project can muster up they may want to contact the sheriff to ascertain if there is any room of volunteers on the ground. This may not fit Jim Gilchrist's schedule and the effort may lack funding. But the opportunity is there. Lets hope the Patriot Minutemen will put on their thinking caps and make something happen. *( Can some of you Californians run this by Jim Gilchrist ) ?

Sheriff's Posse Launches Air Operation

Updated: Tuesday, 29 Mar 2011, 11:10 PM MDT
Published : Tuesday, 29 Mar 2011, 7:05 PM MDT



PHOENIX - Maricopa County Sheriff's posse members are taking to the skies to fight illegal immigration and other related crimes.

As many as 30 pilots will donate their planes and their time to patrol the southern border of Maricopa County.

If they see any illegal activity like drug smuggling, they'll radio it into deputies on the ground.

The planes fly high enough that it is hard for people on the ground to hear them. But pilots say it's easy to spot illegal activity from the air.

"I think everyone owes the country something," says Phil Laker, who has been flying with the posse since 2001. "Whatever fits the individual and this fits me. This is something I can do." Perhaps donors could send money to the Sheriff or a special safe fund.

It's the latest crime suppression operation by Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

"We're going to use our automatic weapons if we have to, and I'm tired of my deputies having to chase these people and I'm sure the air posse will be able to spot these guys running as they do constantly from us," says Arpaio.

The effort is called "Operation Desert Sky." It'll be going on for several weeks.
how can I volunteer for this?
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:04 PM
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how can I volunteer for this?
If you want to join Sheriff Joe Arpaios efforts you should contact him directly. But I think that you should be aware the he is speaking about his Maricopa County residents that he is deputizing.


http://www.mcso.org/

If you aspire to the Jim Gilquist aspitations I will refer you directly to him for current information. There are movements now to mobilize Minuteman voluntees but it is very premature and uncertain./

Your interest is most inspitational and we thank you.

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