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Old 03-16-2013, 08:45 AM
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Default Beach Fire Ban Proposed - Fight Back,5354412.story

City council wants to ban beach fires, a component of American culture dating back centuries. The reason cited is air pollution, however it has been my experience that the reasons they want to ban open fires is so they can reduce air pollution at the expense of your culture so they can increase development of other polluters like business, industry and roads.

Stand for your culture! The coastal commission needs toi hear from you!
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:48 AM
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You need some sort of an "Adventure Pass" just to park your vehicle on the side of the road in the San Bernardino Mountains

All visitors are required to display the pass on their vehicles when they are parking in the Forest for recreational purposes (picnicking, hiking, snow-play, hunting, fishing, etc.). Holders of Golden Eagle Passes are required to purchase an Adventure Pass.

You don't need a pass when you

Drive through the Forest without stopping.

Stop for Information at a Ranger Station, Visitor Center or other Forest Service office.

Park at your own residence.

Stay in an Organization Camp where there is a permitted parking area.

Have a Special Use Permit for the area where you are parking.

Park in a Fee Site where a site-specific fee is already being charged (such as ski resorts or fee campgrounds).

Obtain an Administrative Pass available for volunteers and educational institutions.

Visit on a Free Day.

Park an off-highway vehicle that has the appropriate green sticker.
I don't even waste my time in the San Bernardino mountains anymore - screw them (which is maybe the originating idea by restricting access but I'm the one getting screwed).

Much of the Desert I grew up in is now off limits.

So, we build houses on farm land without adequate water supply, and it seems we may eventually be restricted to densely populated, multistory areas which will require things like outrageously expensive and extremely impractical "solar clothes driers" (clotheslines not allowed - too unsightly) and riding some inconvenient bus to a requisite (and unrewarding) job not of our choosing - which employment will barely function due to "carbon footprint" and politically correct social nonsense. And residents will be required to maintain gardens with the produce exchanged at "farmers markets".

The ultimate "homeowners association" capriciously dominated by Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging, fudge packing "environmentalist" socialistic Fascists. Not the same but where we appear to be headed somewhat reminds me of Mao's "Great Leap Forward" and his "Cultural Revolution":

The communes were relatively self-sufficient co-operatives where wages and money were replaced by work points.
The Great Leap ended in catastrophe, resulting in tens of millions of excess deaths.[3] Estimates of the death toll range from 18 million[4] to 45 million,[5] with estimates by demographic specialists ranging from 18 million to 32.5 million.[4] Historian Frank Dikötter asserts that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history."[6]

The years of the Great Leap Forward in fact saw economic regression, with 1958 through 1961 being the only years between 1953 and 1983 in which China's economy saw negative growth. Political economist Dwight Perkins argues, "enormous amounts of investment produced only modest increases in production or none at all.In short, the Great Leap was a very expensive disaster."[7]
The Revolution was launched in May 1966. Mao alleged that bourgeois elements were infiltrating the government and society at large, aiming to restore capitalism. He insisted that these "revisionists" be removed through violent class struggle. China's youth responded to Mao's appeal by forming Red Guard groups around the country. The movement spread into the military, urban workers, and the Communist Party leadership itself. It resulted in widespread factional struggles in all walks of life. In the top leadership, it led to a mass purge of senior officials who were accused of taking a "capitalist road", most notably Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping. During the same period Mao's personality cult grew to immense proportions.

Millions of people were persecuted in the violent factional struggles that ensued across the country, and suffered a wide range of abuses including public humiliation, arbitrary imprisonment, torture, sustained harassment, and seizure of property. A large segment of the population was forcibly displaced, most notably the transfer of urban youth to rural regions during the Down to the Countryside Movement. Historical relics and artifacts were destroyed. Cultural and religious sites were ransacked.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:11 PM
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What I heard about the beach fire bans was those wealthy leftest living along the beach didn't like the smoke bothering them. And no one has more pull with politicians than the wealthy leftest (also known as Hollywood/industry types). The farther west you go the farther left you go, and you can't go any farther west than the beaches, unless you go to Hawaii which is even more leftest than California.

But people still pay to watch their movies, so they keep pulling in the bucks and influencing the politicians on how we should live.
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