Is it time to pack up the tent?

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Most topics are sensitive to me; I'm a sensitive guy. And I repeat: I'm not afraid of you or your scrutiny either.

If you don't like the cut and paste; don't read it

If you don't like the effort we are doing, or you think it isn't enough; duly noted, but it carries less weight when you haven't offered something in alternative. You telling people they aren't doing enough is not the same as doing something yourself

Not only are you unafraid (Dude, what would or could I do to you?), you're not easily embarrassed, either. There doesn't seem to be much about SOS's ongoing decay and increasing irrelevancy that seems to phase you.

And I did offer you an alternative, and you hit the roof when I mentioned it - Close it down.

It's getting embarrassing ... although I'm confident you don't agree.

Look, there's no point belaboring this further. You and I clearly reason very differently, and this is hardly the first time we've disagreed.

When (and if) you get fed up, let me know. I'll buy the url from you. I won't continue the organization but I'd like the internet traffic.

[ilbegone]

Running the risk of "chirping", I now see potential motivation for this thread:

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

...I'll buy the url from you... I'd like the internet traffic...

I respectfully submit that an offer could have been privately made. I believe the disagreeable nature of this public discussion was and is totally unnecessary.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

Not only are you unafraid (Dude, what would or could I do to you?), you're not easily embarrassed, either. There doesn't seem to be much about SOS's ongoing decay and increasing irrelevancy that seems to phase you.

And I did offer you an alternative, and you hit the roof when I mentioned it - Close it down.

It's getting embarrassing ... although I'm confident you don't agree.

Look, there's no point belaboring this further. You and I clearly reason very differently, and this is hardly the first time we've disagreed.

When (and if) you get fed up, let me know. I'll buy the url from you. I won't continue the organization but I'd like the internet traffic.

No; I'm not afraid of embarrassment either. I would think my history of activism would have been your first clue. And yes; I'm very stubborn, and even my own bodily decay doesn't phase me.
Today, and throughout the past year, you've posted many links to your website. You're already getting free internet traffic...from an allegedly decaying, irrelevant organization no less. No need to thank us. That's what we're here for

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

No; I'm not afraid of embarrassment either. I would think my history of activism would have been your first clue. And yes; I'm very stubborn, and even my own bodily decay doesn't phase me.
Today, and throughout the past year, you've posted many links to your website. You're already getting free internet traffic...from an allegedly decaying, irrelevant organization no less. No need to thank us. That's what we're here for

Actually, as I'm sure you're aware, I just offered you money for a rapidly devaluing product. I'm confident you know this is true b/c I don't doubt you keep track of the SOS hit count and link traffic.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

Actually, as I'm sure you're aware, I just offered you money for a rapidly devaluing product. I'm confident you know this is true b/c I don't doubt you keep track of the SOS hit count and link traffic.

We're not in it for the money or the popularity. Most of us have risked our fame and fortune for principle and community. The latter two goals are the only hit count I'm interested in here.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

We're not in it for the money or the popularity. Most of us have risked our fame and fortune for principle and community. The latter two goals are the only hit count I'm interested in here.

No, you haven't. There's not a current member of SOS who has either fame or fortune to lose. What are you talking about? And insofar as community is concerned, your traffic shows that fewer and fewer members of that community care enough to even visit the site.

What you have is a dwindling population that cares enough about the organization to occasionally look in. That's what your numbers reveal. Start dealing in reality.

[Rim05]

Why, Oh why must we go this way? This reminded me that I did not send the donation for the lettering. As I said before, it will not be very much but remember my SS check may not come on 5-1 because the GOP wants the government to shut down unless they get 'their' way.
Too bad for old people.
Some of this is what happened to SOS.org.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Rim05

Some of this is what happened to SOS.org.

I think it's different. There was a lot more mistrust because there was a lot more censorship, control and hidden subterfuge. I'll give him one thing. I commend him for finally stating his goal.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

No, you haven't. There's not a current member of SOS who has either fame or fortune to lose. What are you talking about? And insofar as community is concerned, your traffic shows that fewer and fewer members of that community care enough to even visit the site.

What you have is a dwindling population that cares enough about the organization to occasionally look in. That's what your numbers reveal. Start dealing in reality.

And here's a reality for you to deal with:
Your record here is going to reflect one that is intent on the failure of our effort, rather than the success of it.
You can change that or continue it

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

And here's a reality for you to deal with:
Your record here is going to reflect one that is intent on the failure of our effort, rather than the success of it.
You can change that or continue it

Davi, as has been the case on multiple occasions in the past, I think you and I will have to continue to disagree. A meeting of the minds just doesn't appear to be on the horizon.