Plain Talk from Common Man

[nativesmith]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

I don't think I would want him on my team !

All those "shoot to kill" stuff makes a fool out of him

[Don]

Originally Posted by nativesmith

All those "shoot to kill" stuff makes a fool out of him

Here's a story about armed illegal aliens stalking US Border Patrol officers. You may not have the stomach to kill them, but they certainly have the stomach to kill Americans and are actively trying to do so. This is an invasion of our country. If you're not prepared to kill them, then they're going to kill you.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...border-patrol/

[wetibbe]

My problem with the Brooklynites comments is that he doesn't distinguish the relatively innocuous border jumpers from the criminal elements.

I am, in fact, involved in communicating with border sheriffs, trying to help obtain funds and assets as well as personnel. Of particular interest, right now, is the returning military equipment, Humvees, arms, night vision optics, thermal binoculars, communications equipment, tents, kitchen equipment and yes some helicopters for the sheriffs. In addition I'm also promoting volunteers, hard core veterans, quite unsuccessfully at the moment.

I have no problem whatsoever with CBP and sheriffs returning fire and terminating the drug and human smugglers and traffickers and the mules escorts that are armed.

The Brooklynite apparently espouses just mowing down anyone that comes across the border. man, woman, child.

Not only is that a totally idiotic proposal, Congress would never approve it, DOD and law enforcement just simply would not do it in the first place and secondly the DOJ would be prosecuting the Americans wholesale as fast as possible. Furthermore the whole world including the UN, allies, and the World Court would turn on America.

What we would want to do is put the Broklynite on the border, give him a gun and tell him to "have at it". As soon as he started shooting LOE's would turn him into Swiss cheese.

Basically he is saying go fight and I will hold your coat. I think, frankly, that he is just venting and blowing off steam.

[LAPhil]

This is an old video. It's really hard to take this guy seriously, so it doesn't bother me at all.

[Don]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

My problem with the Brooklynites comments is that he doesn't distinguish the relatively innocuous border jumpers from the criminal elements.

I am, in fact, involved in communicating with border sheriffs, trying to help obtain funds and assets as well as personnel. Of particular interest, right now, is the returning military equipment, Humvees, arms, night vision optics, thermal binoculars, communications equipment, tents, kitchen equipment and yes some helicopters for the sheriffs. In addition I'm also promoting volunteers, hard core veterans, quite unsuccessfully at the moment.

I have no problem whatsoever with CBP and sheriffs returning fire and terminating the drug and human smugglers and traffickers and the mules escorts that are armed.

The Brooklynite apparently espouses just mowing down anyone that comes across the border. man, woman, child.

Not only is that a totally idiotic proposal, Congress would never approve it, DOD and law enforcement just simply would not do it in the first place and secondly the DOJ would be prosecuting the Americans wholesale as fast as possible. Furthermore the whole world including the UN, allies, and the World Court would turn on America.

What we would want to do is put the Broklynite on the border, give him a gun and tell him to "have at it". As soon as he started shooting LOE's would turn him into Swiss cheese.

Basically he is saying go fight and I will hold your coat. I think, frankly, that he is just venting and blowing off steam.

The man is a comedian. The video is intended to be funny and it is. But it is also serious in that it proposes the most effective way to stop a foreign invasion: Kill the invaders before they can get inland and have babies, sign up for welfare, dumb down schools, bankrupt hospitals...etc. You fail to realize that it is the so called "innocuous border jumpers" who are wrecking the country by the sheer dead weight of their numbers. It's not Mexican criminals that are getting welfare, screwing up the schools and wiping out hospitals. It's the so called "decent" ones.

Well, there are no decent ones. They're all the same. His proposal is not idiotic, but merely politically impossible. Congress won't support it because these third world primitives are so strongly represented in the government, the government that has long ago foresaken the American people. Our lot in life is to be indentured servants to the "migrants" so that their tax payer funded healthcare and "Chicano Studies" programs are not cut, even if we starve.

Gun down every one...man woman and child? Sounds good to me. What do you think we did at Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? We dropped fire bombs and atomic devices on undefended civilian targets full of people on the other side of the world who were no threat to us. They were thousands of miles away. These new enemies are at arms' length. If you're too squeamish to shot them, then throw away your American flag (if you actually own one), start learning Spanish and learn how to have three families move into your single family residence to split the housing cost because that's your future if this infestation of teeming third world hordes is not stopped.

The fact that any serious defense of our country against foreign invasion is politically impossible just shows how far down the tubes we've gone. They already own our country and they own us. We are conquered subjects to be enslaved and looted.

[Rim05]

Well, there are no decent ones. They're all the same. His proposal is not idiotic, but merely politically impossible. Congress won't support it because these third world primitives are so strongly represented in the government, the government that has long ago foresaken the American people. Our lot in life is to be indentured servants to the "migrants" so that their tax payer funded healthcare and "Chicano Studies" programs are not cut, even if we starve.

Gun down every one...man woman and child? Sounds good to me. What do you think we did at Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? We dropped fire bombs and atomic devices on undefended civilian targets full of people on the other side of the world who were no threat to us. They were thousands of miles away. These new enemies are at arms' length. If you're too squeamish to shot them, then throw away your American flag (if you actually own one), start learning Spanish and learn how to have three families move into your single family residence to split the housing cost because that's your future if this infestation of teeming third world hordes is not stopped.

The fact that any serious defense of our country against foreign invasion is politically impossible just shows how far down the tubes we've gone. They already own our country and they own us. We are conquered subjects to be enslaved and looted.
Well, there are no decent ones. They're all the same. His proposal is not idiotic, but merely politically impossible. Congress won't support it because these third world primitives are so strongly represented in the government, the government that has long ago foresaken the American people. Our lot in life is to be indentured servants to the "migrants" so that their tax payer funded healthcare and "Chicano Studies" programs are not cut, even if we starve.

Gun down every one...man woman and child? Sounds good to me. What do you think we did at Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? We dropped fire bombs and atomic devices on undefended civilian targets full of people on the other side of the world who were no threat to us. They were thousands of miles away. These new enemies are at arms' length. If you're too squeamish to shot them, then throw away your American flag (if you actually own one), start learning Spanish and learn how to have three families move into your single family residence to split the housing cost because that's your future if this infestation of teeming third world hordes is not stopped.

The fact that any serious defense of our country against foreign invasion is politically impossible just shows how far down the tubes we've gone. They already own our country and they own us. We are conquered subjects to be enslaved and looted.

There you go again Don, you say we fire bombed those countries but, do you remember Pearl Harbor?

I am not against, and I do want the Border Patrol armed with real bullets. Yes, and use them when necessary.
Instead of sending our BP to Mexico to fight the Drug Cartels, I would let Mexico take care of their so called country. We should CONTROL our own border instead.
It is my opinion that NO politition cares who is here and they do not care about the borders.

I am thinking about the Latina in Porter Ranch Walmart. Black Friday, she sprayed about 20 shoppers with pepper spray to keep them from the x boxes as they were opened, all so she could get hers.
She went to the PD later and turned herself in, Guess what? Yesterday I heard that the PD released her,no charges and she is still FREE. That does tell us, the American Citizen to go to hell?

1. I have plenty of US flags.
2. I have NO plans to learn Spanish.
3. I do not plan to share my home with any one.

I have been on the street many times and hours doing all I know how to stop the insanity. Tell me where you have been besides on some forum.
I have signed the Petition to repeal the Dream Act, have you?
You see it is a bit more complicated than ranting, you must DO, DO, DO AND THEN DO MORE. The politicans are not going to do it for you.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I am thinking about the Latina in Porter Ranch Walmart. Black Friday, she sprayed about 20 shoppers with pepper spray to keep them from the x boxes as they were opened, all so she could get hers.
She went to the PD later and turned herself in, Guess what? Yesterday I heard that the PD released her,no charges and she is still FREE. That does tell us, the American Citizen to go to hell?.

I hadn't heard that she was ID'd as Latina...Where'd you read or hear that?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

Gun down every one...man woman and child? Sounds good to me. What do you think we did at Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? We dropped fire bombs and atomic devices on undefended civilian targets full of people on the other side of the world who were no threat to us. They were thousands of miles away..

You forget that Germany was in the midst of developing an atomic weapon until the US stopped them. They were also still building rockets to launch at civilian targets in britian, some with mindless chance oriented targeting mechanisms. Japan, while not so engaged in that process had shown tremendous resolve to dig in, and continue the fight. In addition, Japan was developing other threatening tools of war to launch at us in underhanded attacks. Have you seen the submarines they built that were aircraft carriers? They were planning to sail them to the panama canal for another sneak attack while disguising the planes as other than japanese.
While the use of the A-bomb was somewhat questionable, the one's doing the questioning are usually the ones who weren't going to be involved in the invasion of the japanese homeland

[LAPhil]

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[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

... They [Nazi Germany] were also still building rockets to launch at civilian targets in britian, some with mindless chance oriented targeting mechanisms. ...

A small point, but there were no targeting mechanisms in the Nazi missile and drone program against the English. They were applied strictly as terror weapons. They had generalized targets they hoped they might reach, but the science of targeting ballistic missiles was not well developed enough to include any on board targeting mechanisms.

The Qassam missiles launched from Gaza into the rest of Israel is a similar program. They are crude, home built and have no tactical value whatsoever.