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[Ayatollahgondola]

an update on this:

I've made the same requests to the City of Los Angeles, and the County of Los Angeles. Thus far, the county has at least recognized the request. The City has not. I'll be updating as the time periods expire or the requests are honored.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

an update on this:

I've made the same requests to the City of Los Angeles, and the County of Los Angeles. Thus far, the county has at least recognized the request. The City has not. I'll be updating as the time periods expire or the requests are honored.

Alrighty then!

The County believes that the information we seek is exempt. However, the two exemptions they cited do not apply to part of my request, and the other exemption was based upon the California constitution, section 1, article 1. Basically:

SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have
inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and
liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing
and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

We are not asking for any private information though. We don't want their home addresses, phone numbers or any other private info like that. Since they are or are not working for the county or contracting with them, i believe we are entitled to their names, and the names of their DBA's or company names. Now you may all remember that the sac bee published the names and salaries of all state employees recently. If the state couldn't withhold that, I'm sure we are on solid ground in obtaining what we want.
I also believe where there is smoke..., and I think the county is showing some smoke right now
Onward we go....

[ilbegone]

How would the Freedom Of Information Act apply in this case?

I don't know much about it, but it seems that the Latino race movement has pried quite a bit of information from the Feds and others over the years.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

How would the Freedom Of Information Act apply in this case?

I don't know much about it, but it seems that the Latino race movement has pried quite a bit of information from the Feds and others over the years.

FOIA applies to federal entities only. However we have made some FOIA's in regards to this matter, and that's going OK thus far. In fact, it was part of the groundwork for this action. First thing we did was try to generalize the amount of ITIN's in use for a given year, then compartmentalize them by their areas of use. The feds issue them, and keep records of where they are used.

[ilbegone]

Another thing, and I may be barking up a wrong tree, but it seems the press has a right to stuff local entities otherwise stonewall on.

It may depend on lawsuits by the media to get the information dislodged, I seem to remember successful lawsuits over newspapers not being given access to municipal and county information

[Ayatollahgondola]

We've had another denial from the County of LA. This one is describing some sort of invasion of privacy again. I've contacted the FAC, and we hope to have some guidance from them on this. In the interim, I'm drawing up three more PRA's that don't require the names of the users. We'll still pursue the names through a legal challenge, but we'll try to get the remainder of the info through another PRA