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Old 01-22-2010, 12:30 PM
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... And yes they did have an infrastructure. It was not quite what we here in the US consider adequate but they had one non the less. Now it is completely gone. I do not compare what we have here and say because they were not equal to our standards that they don't deserve a modicum of relief. ...
They didn't. That was what all the previous aid was about. The problem was that it wasn't anything at all what anyone could call adequate. Of course the aid we give as a consequence of the earthquake shouldn't be held back because the country was grindingly destitute before the earthquake and socially unstable too. It's just that aid for the earthquake shouldn't be confused with the aid they need as a basic issue. And confronting the consequences of the earthquake should not be confused with with confronting the more basic problems of the country.

Notice in images coming out of the earthquake and survivors. See all the white dust which comes from the toppled cinder block structures? All that was from previous aid. It was a lot of money and it went nowhere. No more money should be sent that goes nowhere. They need family planning and they need to throw the Catholic church out.
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:59 PM
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They didn't. That was what all the previous aid was about. The problem was that it wasn't anything at all what anyone could call adequate. Of course the aid we give as a consequence of the earthquake shouldn't be held back because the country was grindingly destitute before the earthquake and socially unstable too. It's just that aid for the earthquake shouldn't be confused with the aid they need as a basic issue. And confronting the consequences of the earthquake should not be confused with with confronting the more basic problems of the country.

Notice in images coming out of the earthquake and survivors. See all the white dust which comes from the toppled cinder block structures? All that was from previous aid. It was a lot of money and it went nowhere. No more money should be sent that goes nowhere. They need family planning and they need to throw the Catholic church out.
Do you even understand what the word infrastructure means? Are you saying they didn't have roads? Or electricity, or plumbing? They may not have had the finest and everywhere, but they had it to some degree. They don't now. And before anyone jumps the gun, they need to bury the dead, get water to the people and the necessities to keep them alive.

The problems with that country should be dealt with at some future date, but right now just keeping thousands of people alive should be the first priority.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:32 AM
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I didn't watch the Haiti fund raising telethon last night but I heard that George Cloney sponsored it and donated $1 million as did Leonargo Decaprio.

Since I didn't watch I may not be too well informed but from other news sources - where is Danny Glover, Oprah, Jesse Jackson the black crowd ????

The doctors, aid workers, rescue teams are all white ? I see white American soldiers carryling little Haitian children.

Where is the black community ?
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:34 AM
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I didn't watch the Haiti fund raising telethon last night but I heard that George Cloney sponsored it and donated $1 million as did Leonargo Decaprio.

Since I didn't watch I may not be too well informed but from other news sources - where is Danny Glover, Oprah, Jesse Jackson the black crowd ????

The doctors, aid workers, rescue teams are all white ? I see white American soldiers carryling little Haitian children.

Where is the black community ?
That's a good question. Another good question is why isn't Iran or the wealthy Arab countries helping?
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That's a good question. Another good question is why isn't Iran or the wealthy Arab countries helping?
Iran has always said, "we don't take help, we don't give help, we help our own."
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:43 PM
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Iran has always said, "we don't take help, we don't give help, we help our own."
Unless they are in and around Israel firing missiles at old ladies. Or stomping on Iraq's fingers at its borders.

Yes, no muslim countries have sent anyone or anything to Haiti. Meanwhile Israel is scrambliing all over itself to send help and relief there. Will they win any admiration from the Catholic church? Of course not, and maybe the support they are sending is itself the hand of the Catholic church in Israel's economy, military and politics.

And also, of course, some jerk is posting YouTube accusations that Israel is there to steal organs.
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