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Old 03-24-2010, 07:58 PM
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It's kind of strange. There are plenty of hispanics in New York City. How long do you think they would last with a celebration like that there?
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:25 PM
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It's kind of strange. There are plenty of hispanics in New York City. How long do you think they would last with a celebration like that there?
What you are referring to is the difference between Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, and Mexicans, Guatemalans, and the rest of the central Americans.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:11 PM
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It seems that there is a significant proportion of Guatemalans and El Salvadorans in the San Fernando valley, and their children are being indoctrinated into the Chicano selection version of "Mexican Culture" at school, much to the dismay of the Central American parents. They have a different version of Hispanic culture separate from Mexico, as do Puerto Ricans and Cubans.

Reynaldo Berrios, publisher of La Vida Loca magazine and author of Cholo Style, is a product of that sort of cultural mongrelization. Having central American origins and a street gangster mentality born of Southern California street fighting experience, his eventual college education fully converted him to Chicanismo - something his ancestors would have been both bewildered by and disapproving of.

As I remember, his ramblings include such gems as a BS rendition of a Chicano version of an Aztec creation myth, which I also believe incredibly mentions Cuauhtemoc. (It's been a long time since I read it, and the book is about 100 miles away in physical presence) and a hysterical claim that "the whites and N****rs are pushing us and our barrios into the sea!"
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Old 03-30-2010, 08:36 AM
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SANTA ANA – A downtown celebration honoring Mexico's bicentennial is sparking a firestorm of protests and angry e-mails after city officials decided to kick off the festivities on the day that marks nine years since the Sept. 11 attacks.

A group of anti-illegal immigration activists picketed last weekend in front of the Mexican consulate and plans another protest Wednesday morning. The group also expects to hold a protest at next week's City Council meeting.
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Carla and Marco Ramirez of Santa Ana check out some of the merchandise at one of the booths a couple years ago at Fiestas Patrias in downtown Santa Ana.


Lupe Moreno, president of Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, is spearheading the movement. She said she has no qualms with the event itself, comparing it to St. Patrick's Day and other ethnic festivities.

"I don't care. Let them have their event. Just don't do it on the same day as Sept. 11," said Moreno, a Santa Ana resident. "That is not the day we should be partying and celebrating."

Santa Ana City Manager Dave Ream said they've made the decision to celebrate on that day and don't see a problem with it.

City officials plan to hold a special memorial to honor the fallen before kicking off celebrations for Mexico's 200 years of independence.

"We want to do something really nice," Ream said about the Sept. 11 component of the events. "We don't have the contract quite finished yet but we'll definitely recognize that day."

The promoter of the event pays for all the costs, including security during the celebration, which includes a festival and parade, Ream added.

Moreno contends the Mexican celebration should not be held on that weekend at all. She and Barbara Coe, who heads the California Coalition for Immigration Reform in Huntington Beach, have sent e-mails to several hundred members involved in the movement, calling for the protests.

Mexican diplomat Alejandra Garcia Williams, who recently took the helm as Consul General in Santa Ana, said she doesn't understand why Moreno and her group would picket her. The city's decision had already been made when she first took charge late last year, she said.

In Mexico and at other consulates throughout the world, she said, the cry for independence celebration officially kicks off late night Sept. 15 and into Sept. 16.

When told about the date of the Santa Ana event, Garcia Williams said she immediately recognized the sensitive nature of Sept. 11 and asked officials to at least have a minute of silence during the event.

"That day is sensitive also for the Mexican community... for the whole world. Mexicans also died in the towers that day," she said.

Ultimately, she said she didn't object because she was new in town and wanted to be accommodating.

"But people need to understand that we did not make this decision ... what I attempted to do was to be accommodating to the traditions of Santa Ana to celebrate on the weekend when everyone can attend." Garcia Williams said.

Moreno said Garcia Williams should have taken a tougher stance.

"She is the representative of Mexico. She could still go to the ... City Council and say, 'You know what? Out of respect to your country, we should have it on the weekend after,' " Moreno said. "She should have spoken up."

Moreno said she believes there is still time for city officials to change their minds.

"It's not set in stone," she said. "They still have time to still make things right."

Contact the writer: 714-796-7924 or ccarcamo@ocregister.com
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She is the representative of Mexico. She could still go to the ... City Council and say, 'You know what? Out of respect to your country, we should have it on the weekend after,' " Moreno said. "She should have spoken up.
Since when do Mexicans care about anything but themselves?
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Since when do Mexicans care about anything but themselves?
And since when are the mexicans independent? They've been dependent upon US taxpayers for social services, jobs, and protection for several decades.
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Please click on the link below and vote in the poll

QUESTION:
Mexican festival on 9/11
Should Mexican festival in Santa Ana be held on Sept. 11?

Scroll to the bottom of the page and the poll is at the right side, toward bottom of page

http://www.ocregister.com/news/day-2...reno-city.html

Current Poll Results
Mexican festival on 9/11
Should Mexican festival in Santa Ana be held on Sept. 11?

Yes, the special 9/11 memorial before the festival will recognize the date's importance. 18 %

No, Sept. 11 is not a day for celebrations. 80 %

Undecided 2 %
Total Votes: 356 Read Related Article
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