Governor Brown Signs Multiple Bills In Support Of Illegal Aliens

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by JB_Parrothead

So what can be done about it? I haven't been on this site in quite a while and it looks like we're still banging our heads against a brick wall and still complaining about the same old crap. I think we're behind enemy lines here. CALIFORNIA IS LOST. Governor Moonbeam has just handed the keys over to Mexico. Illegal aliens have more rights than citizens in this state and are given breaks, financially and otherwise that are not offered to citizens. Illegals are ABOVE the law, just like the one in the white house. Nothing is going to change unless these liberal jalapeno suckers are booted out of office and replaced with individuals that respect the laws of this nation and aren't out to implode this state and completely eradicate the middle class.

Impeachment proceedings need to be implemented. Our representatives do not represent us. The majority of reps in Sacramental are illegals, married to illegals or are anchor babies. What else could you expect from a group like that being led by a burned out, rich hippie?

Hey JB, long time no see! I see we had similar thoughts on this. The only problem with your idea of booting out these "liberal jalapeno suckers" (there's a colorful term for you!) is that they're completely entrenched between the gerrymandering of the districts and the overall demographics of California which is now totally skewed in their favor anyway. I just don't really see any solution at this point other than the ones I suggested previously. You're right, I think California is lost.

[JB_Parrothead]

Nice to see you're still in the fight, LAPhil...I had to give it up for awhile...was causing me too many health problems. I need to cruise the site and see where else I can put in my two cents worth. LOL!

Have a great day, my friend!

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by JB_Parrothead

CALIFORNIA IS LOST.

Originally Posted by LAPhil

. You're right, I think California is lost.

Germany was once lost to Hitler

Fiji was once lost to Indians

Guam was once lost to the Japanese

The point is, it's a principle and a way of life you choose, and the real estate is the battleground. What purpose does it serve to make statements like those if you really want to live another way? Are you trying to convince yourself that you can never have the government and way of life of your choosing, or trying to convince the opposition that they are winning?

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Germany was once lost to Hitler

Fiji was once lost to Indians

Guam was once lost to the Japanese

The point is, it's a principle and a way of life you choose, and the real estate is the battleground. What purpose does it serve to make statements like those if you really want to live another way? Are you trying to convince yourself that you can never have the government and way of life of your choosing, or trying to convince the opposition that they are winning?

AG, your thinking makes sense over the long term, but I'm not going to live that long. Sure California could once return to the way it was, and of course the sooner the better, but the way things are going I'm not holding my breath for it to happen in my lifetime. If that sounds cynical or defeatist I'm sorry, but the reality is that it will take many years to turn things around here. If I had the power to change things sooner I would do whatever I could. I guess I shouldn't say California is lost because that implies it's lost forever, and I couldn't accept that. It's not that I've given up all hope, but other than voting I just don't know what I can do to change the reality of the situation. A few years ago I wouldn't have said this, as we had a viable movement and it looked like we actually had the chance to change things. But now look at how SOS has dwindled as well as other similar movements which we hardly ever hear from anymore. I don't know what happened, but somewhere along the line we lost our voice, and I no longer feel empowered to change the direction of this state.

Just as example of how little chance we have to change things any time soon, look at the last election we had for governor. We had a choice between Moonbeam and Meg Whitman, both of whom we know had no sympathy for what we stand for. But of course there was Chelene Nightingale who did but never had a prayer of winning, and we both know you wouldn't have voted for her if she was the last person on earth.

I know you don't appreciate these sentiments, and I really admire everything you've done and continue to do to fight the power. Perhaps if there were more people like yourself we wouldn't be in this mess, but it seems that there either aren't enough people who care anymore, or there is more sympathy for illegal aliens than there used to be. So I'm sorry to sound so discouraged, but I really am.

[Yourfired]

Brown Is breaking Federal Law(s) just like the people that are writing them.
Aiding and abetting an Illegal alien Is a FEDERAL crime. That Is exactly what these politicians are doing

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

AG, your thinking makes sense over the long term, but I'm not going to live that long. Sure California could once return to the way it was, and of course the sooner the better, but the way things are going I'm not holding my breath for it to happen in my lifetime. If that sounds cynical or defeatist I'm sorry, but the reality is that it will take many years to turn things around here. If I had the power to change things sooner I would do whatever I could. I guess I shouldn't say California is lost because that implies it's lost forever, and I couldn't accept that. It's not that I've given up all hope, but other than voting I just don't know what I can do to change the reality of the situation. A few years ago I wouldn't have said this, as we had a viable movement and it looked like we actually had the chance to change things. But now look at how SOS has dwindled as well as other similar movements which we hardly ever hear from anymore. I don't know what happened, but somewhere along the line we lost our voice, and I no longer feel empowered to change the direction of this state.

I know you don't appreciate these sentiments, and I really admire everything you've done and continue to do to fight the power. Perhaps if there were more people like yourself we wouldn't be in this mess, but it seems that there either aren't enough people who care anymore, or there is more sympathy for illegal aliens than there used to be. So I'm sorry to sound so discouraged, but I just am.

Phil, you are letting open-borders voodoo run amok in your head. This is precisely what they want. These state legislative remedies are meant to be like Tokyo Rose broadcasts. They mock, they chide, they antagonize. Many of these new signings are laws that go nowhere. the legislature is famous for passing laws that are in practice...useless. Take the license for illegals one for example. The governor stated something to the effect that millions of them would get license. The truth is that there is not millions of them here. We might have 2 million, maybe more, but only the ones who don't have warrants out for them, aren't actively ducking an ICE investigation are going to apply, and many of those aren't going to make the trip because they don't speak enough english to be licensed. We might see 500,000 actually apply and get a license. Not that it isn't an insult to us, but really, it's not as big a blow as having the sky fall.
The reporting of illegals thing isn't going to affect much at all. it'll affect some businesses who are already cheating, so it won't make a real difference to us.

Take a look through these new laws, and you'll see it is much more bark than bite. We can fight back and make them even more useless.

[Ayatollahgondola]

But now look at how SOS has dwindled as well as other similar movements which we hardly ever hear from anymore.

You have as much or as little power as you want. But regardless of what you see here now, we are still reaping all the rewards of our earlier hard work. People are educated more now, and they're using the information that they learned from us to write their reps in congress. Amnesty had better chances in years past than it does now. The reason for that is people are hammering their reps and voting or donating. They learned about DL centers from us, and we spread other groups efforts alongside. I think you may be underrating your past efforts

[ilbegone]

LA Phil, JB Parrothead, you're fired, and all...

Relatively speaking Governor Moonbeam and state attorney Kamala Harris are actually moderates in Sacramento. It could be much, much worse.

Sure, they violate Federal law, but the community organizer and his executive employees are making a conscious effort NOT to enforce the law concerning things such as California legislative shenanigans.

2014 needs to bring in enough new congressmen and federal senators to box in and over ride Obama, and 2016 needs to bring in a president who will enforce the laws of the land without picking and choosing which ones he will enforce or manipulating the manner they are enforced, and such a president will sue those political figures and states which don't fall in line with those federal laws.

Now go to work organizing so that such a thing will happen.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

Phil, you are letting open-borders voodoo run amok in your head. This is precisely what they want. These state legislative remedies are meant to be like Tokyo Rose broadcasts. They mock, they chide, they antagonize. Many of these new signings are laws that go nowhere. the legislature is famous for passing laws that are in practice...useless. Take the license for illegals one for example. The governor stated something to the effect that millions of them would get license. The truth is that there is not millions of them here. We might have 2 million, maybe more, but only the ones who don't have warrants out for them, aren't actively ducking an ICE investigation are going to apply, and many of those aren't going to make the trip because they don't speak enough english to be licensed. We might see 500,000 actually apply and get a license. Not that it isn't an insult to us, but really, it's not as big a blow as having the sky fall.
The reporting of illegals thing isn't going to affect much at all. it'll affect some businesses who are already cheating, so it won't make a real difference to us.

Take a look through these new laws, and you'll see it is much more bark than bite. We can fight back and make them even more useless.

OK, that's all very encouraging. What do you suggest we do now? How do we fight back?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

OK, that's all very encouraging. What do you suggest we do now? How do we fight back?

Over the next few weeks, we will post some counter strategies. I've been working a few already.