Ayatollah's Amnesty Battle Advice

[ohighlass]

OF COURSE!!! Already done.

[Greg in LA]

Great advice!

I used the 12 million new gun owners on Boxer and Feinslime today. I really like it, as they're trying to confiscate guns. I would love them to know that they are bringing in millions on new gun owners. I know that they don't care, but it's just more reasons to keep calling them.

Thanks for the letter.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Greg in LA

I would love them to know that they are bringing in millions on new gun owners. I know that they don't care, but it's just more reasons to keep calling them.

Thanks for the letter.

I think they will care once the reality of that sinks in. I doubt they will be as comfortable with the premise of 12 million people more likely voting democrat than they would 12 million being anti gun

Actually, you might want to read my second bloviation on the gun issue that explains it more in depth:

http://saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=7552

[LAPhil]

Unfortunately the Republican Party doesn't seem to have anyone with a prayer of winning any major election who values or even sees the importance of these things. To them the only thing that matters is pandering to the Latino community for votes since so few Hispanics voted for Romney in the last election, and they really don't care if selling out on illegal immigration conflicts with what's really good for the country. And the Catch-22 is that without winning elections we can never stop amnesty. And as for the Democratic Party, well, what more can you say? Follow the money.

[Greg in LA]

I tried the 12-20 million new gun owners in the poorest neighborhoods in America. I have to say it came off of my tongue smoothly and the call takers at Feinslime and Boxers office actually listened.

I think I'm reserving this argument for the Democrat's, because they're the ones who want gun control and less guns.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Greg in LA

I tried the 12-20 million new gun owners in the poorest neighborhoods in America. I have to say it came off of my tongue smoothly and the call takers at Feinslime and Boxers office actually listened.

I think I'm reserving this argument for the Democrat's, because they're the ones who want gun control and less guns.

I'd say the republicans have villainized the democrats as being anti gun, the same way the democrats have villainized the republicans as being anti immigrant. I think the truth is though, that by the time you reach the stature and power of congressperson or senator, you fear an armed populace equally so, whether you are a democrat or a republican. That's one of the inherent seductions of power and priviledge. But relating to your strategy, I think that republicans being more law 'n' order oriented, might be as receptive to pause on the amnesty steam roller to address this unplanned problem. Rubio, for instance, is in Florida, a state with a lot of illegals, gun crimes, and an earlier history of foreign drug gangs fighting it out on the streets of large cities. Even a war mongering latino panderer like him remembers how bad the violence was back then, and might not want to revive those days again.
You just have to remind him, and other republicans that these people have been taught that the federal laws can be ignored. We've conditioned them to corruption. Now we're going to allow them to arm themselves legally, within our communities.

[LAPhil]

I'm having trouble understanding the connection between the guns and amnesty issues. Are we assuming that more illegal aliens = more illegal guns? Or just more guns, period? I don't see how that follows.