Seattle Cop Killer Hailed as Muslim Hero

[Jeanfromfillmore]

What I would like to see is more Black and Hispanics condemn the actions of those who are trying to destroy and damage this country. That is what I see as the biggest problem. When you hear "They are not representative of the Black or Hispanic community" you have to ask why then don't Blacks and Hispanics in huge numbers come out and march against these people. The answer is because they either agree with them, or they don't care, or they're cowards. Being a victim is so much easier than taking a stand.

[Cruisingfool]

This is the muslims unleashed, wait until Americans are unleashed...

[Don]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

What I would like to see is more Black and Hispanics condemn the actions of those who are trying to destroy and damage this country. That is what I see as the biggest problem. When you hear "They are not representative of the Black or Hispanic community" you have to ask why then don't Blacks and Hispanics in huge numbers come out and march against these people. The answer is because they either agree with them, or they don't care, or they're cowards. Being a victim is so much easier than taking a stand.

They don't oppose it because they support it. Rev. Jesse Jackson once said:

"Hey Hey.

Ho Ho.

Western Civ has got to go."

It's going.

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

What I would like to see is more Black and Hispanics condemn the actions of those who are trying to destroy and damage this country. That is what I see as the biggest problem. When you hear "They are not representative of the Black or Hispanic community" you have to ask why then don't Blacks and Hispanics in huge numbers come out and march against these people. The answer is because they either agree with them, or they don't care, or they're cowards. Being a victim is so much easier than taking a stand.

Black and hispanics who say that these individuals aren't representative of their communities have the same credibility as Tiger Woods saying "Honest, I am not cheating on you" to his wife.

IF these criminals are not representative of them personally, they are at best, the very best being disingenuous.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

Black and hispanics who say that these individuals aren't representative of their communities have the same credibility as Tiger Woods saying "Honest, I am not cheating on you" to his wife.

IF these criminals are not representative of them personally, they are at best, the very best being disingenuous.

Kathy, you can't mean that. Are you saying most blacks and Hispanics are basically criminals?

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

Kathy, you can't mean that. Are you saying most blacks and Hispanics are basically criminals?

Phil, I don't think she was implying that. I believe what she's saying is that they're not being honest with themselves or the community. Similar to what Bill Cosby said, that Blacks must first examine what their community is condoning by using the victim mentality. You can not fix something unless you admit that it needs repair. This is true of each of us and society. If we do not recognize or acknowledge our faults, we make no attempt to improve what we souldn't be doing.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

Phil, I don't think she was implying that. I believe what she's saying is that they're not being honest with themselves or the community. Similar to what Bill Cosby said, that Blacks must first examine what their community is condoning by using the victim mentality. You can not fix something unless you admit that it needs repair. This is true of each of us and society. If we do not recognize or acknowledge our faults, we make no attempt to improve what we souldn't be doing.

OK, but I think there may be more to this. I'll wait for Kathy's answer.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

Phil, I don't think she was implying that. I believe what she's saying is that they're not being honest with themselves or the community. Similar to what Bill Cosby said, that Blacks must first examine what their community is condoning by using the victim mentality. You can not fix something unless you admit that it needs repair. This is true of each of us and society. If we do not recognize or acknowledge our faults, we make no attempt to improve what we souldn't be doing.

I think there is a problem with lumping blacks and hispanics together as a social issue. The problems that African Americans have to deal with have absolutely nothing to do with the complaints made by hispanics. The "hispanics" have nothing to complain about, really. The African Americans, the real African Americans, not African immigrants, have had a lot to overcome and still suffer the reverberations of their ordeal as slaves.

It's true there are a lot of rotten leaders claiming to represent the African American community, but leadership there is tough to find.

But I have to admit, time is running out on African Americans, their communites are becoming increasing blurred and diffused.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by Twoller

I think there is a problem with lumping blacks and hispanics together as a social issue. The problems that African Americans have to deal with have absolutely nothing to do with the complaints made by hispanics. The "hispanics" have nothing to complain about, really. The African Americans, the real African Americans, not African immigrants, have had a lot to overcome and still suffer the reverberations of their ordeal as slaves.

It's true there are a lot of rotten leaders claiming to represent the African American community, but leadership there is tough to find.

But I have to admit, time is running out on African Americans, their communites are becoming increasing blurred and diffused.

Well I would agree with you that much of what the Blacks are experiencing is quite different from someone who just crawled across our border. But some things are a problem that society as a whole has created. I say this because of three generations of welfare recipients and the damage to so many as a result. It has created a feeling of entitlement, lack of responsibility and a continued underclass which has now become an acceptable lifestyle and enabler for illegals. The Blacks and Hispanic are two different demographics, but they do share some common problems, along with other ethnics to a lesser degree.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

Well I would agree with you that much of what the Blacks are experiencing is quite different from someone who just crawled across our border. But some things are a problem that society as a whole has created. I say this because of three generations of welfare recipients and the damage to so many as a result. It has created a feeling of entitlement, lack of responsibility and a continued underclass which has now become an acceptable lifestyle and enabler for illegals. The Blacks and Hispanic are two different demographics, but they do share some common problems, along with other ethnics to a lesser degree.

But the reality is that not all hispanics in the US got here by crawling accross the border. And what got hispanics classed as an underclass was the misplaced designation of hispanics as a racial classification. Hispanics no more deserve a racial distinction in the US than the Italians or the Scandinavians. Notice that middle easterners are not considered a race legalistically in this country. And I would say that African Americans have some rights to claim some entitlements. But nobody else, at least nobody else distinguished as a race and certainly not African immigrants or black immigrants from outside the US or any of their descendents.