Auntie Zeituni Oyango Is Back Again

[Twoller]

Actually, Don has brought up an interesting observation that I try to make myself over and over again. Illegal immigration is an international problem. It seems obvious to observe this. Illegal immigration is the problem of one population of people moving from one country to another against the will of the destination country. This is obviously international.

But we tend to neglect that our country is not the only country in the world that is the destination of illegal immigrants. Even Mexico has an illegal immigrant problem.

But everywhere the reason for the problem is the same. One country has a population breeding like insects, the destination country has a population reproducing in a more sober manner guided by rational economics and cultural values. And there are powerful people in both countries who try to prevent anyone from doing anything about it. In African it is the same way. South Africa has an illegal immigration problem and it is the natives that suffer the most from it.

Bulldozing squatter camps is the right way to deal with the problem. Squatter camps are a huge health problem and only get bigger and worse until no one can do anything about it. In France they are prying loose the Roma population centers and sending them back where they came from and of course France is getting the usual insensitive reactions from the rest of the EU about it. They are doing the right thing and not only should they keep doing it, they need to pick up momentum too for other immigration problems.

[LAPhil]

I found this thread after I read this, and now I've seen the YouTube video. What an arrogant bi-otch! We have an obligation to make her a citizen? I thought the La Razists had chutzpah, but auntie-baby here takes the cake! This d-bag should be an albatross hung around Obama's neck for all to see!

FAIR Legislative Update September 27, 2010

Obama’s Aunt: The System Took Advantage of Me
In her first interview since receiving asylum, Zeituni Onyango, President Obama’s aunt, portrayed herself as a victim of U.S. immigration policy, telling reporters: “I didn’t take advantage of the system. The system took advantage of me.” (CBS News, Sept. 21, 2010) Entirely unapologetic for residing in the U.S. illegally, Onyango recounted how she had become an illegal alien, how she first came to the U.S. from Kenya in 2000 with the intention of leaving, but continued to stay after experiencing health problems. (Id.) However, even when her health improved, Onyango continued to live illegally in the U.S., residing in public housing and collecting $700 monthly disability checks from the government. (ABC News, Sept. 21, 2010)

In March 2003, Onyango was first ordered into an immigration court in Boston, where she requested asylum in an attempt to stay in the U.S. (Washington Post, Apr. 2, 2009; ABC News, Sept. 21, 2010) The judge turned down her request and ordered her deported the following month. (Washington Post, Apr. 2, 2009) After a series of unsuccessful appeals, Onyango again was ordered to leave the country in October 2004. (Id.)

Although twice ordered to leave the United States, Onyango never did. Instead, she stayed, attending high-profile events such as Obama’s swearing in ceremony as the junior Senator of Illinois after the 2004 elections, as well as Obama’s presidential inauguration following his 2008 victory. (CBS News, Sept. 21, 2010) She also continued to live at the expense of taxpayers.

In this latest interview, Ms. Onyango freely admitted that she knew what she was doing was illegal, telling the reporter “I knew I had overstayed.” (CBS News, Sept. 21, 2010) Nonetheless, she said she owed nothing to the United States. When the reporter reminded her how much the U.S. had given her, she retorted that the U.S. was “here to help people, help the poor, help other countries, and take care of women.” (CBS News, Sept. 21, 2010) The reporter responded with “That’s what the United States is supposed to do?” Ms. Onyango answered, “And you have to give me my right like any other person’s right (sic).” (Id.) “If I come as an immigrant,” she said, “you have the obligation to make me a citizen.” (Id.)

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

No outcry from the world press. The story was kind of ho-hum...like what else would you expect from blacks? At least they don't eat each other any more.


Don, you are to be given points for consistency. You have somehow managed to find the race angle in this story that had eluded everyone else who has posted in the thread.

"taking a page from the Israelis' treatment of Palestinians I suppose."

And there he goes again. I think Don should sponsor a Palestinian child since he obviously cares so much about their mistreatment at the hands of those with the greasy palms.

[wetibbe]

She probably didn't go back for lack of funds. She lived here in a homeless shelter for two years. She was, and is, unemployed and claims to be disabled to boot.

If she went back she probably would end up in a shack, on the outskirt's of Nairobi like Obama's half brother, living is squalor with nothing to eat. Or out in some remote village, in a stone hut with a grass roof, with no electricity, running water or sewers.

So how did she get here in the first place ?

And what went on behind closed doors when the Judge failed to order her out ?

If she is collecting $700 a month disability she sure isn't living it up ! *( Obama's half brother lives on a lot less than that ).

And how did she ever get the disability payments approved ?

[REWHBLCAIN]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

She probably didn't go back for lack of funds. She lived here in a homeless shelter for two years. She was, and is, unemployed and claims to be disabled to boot.

If she went back she probably would end up in a shack, on the outskirt's of Nairobi like Obama's half brother, living is squalor with nothing to eat. Or out in some remote village, in a stone hut with a grass roof, with no electricity, running water or sewers.

So how did she get here in the first place ?

And what went on behind closed doors when the Judge failed to order her out ?

If she is collecting $700 a month disability she sure isn't living it up ! *( Obama's half brother lives on a lot less than that ).

And how did she ever get the disability payments approved ?

Public housing common sense
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed..._common_sense/



By Lawrence Harmon
Globe Columnist / September 26, 2010
PRESIDENT OBAMA’S aunt — Zeituni Onyango — lives in a 68-unit public housing complex for the elderly and disabled within walking distance of Boston Harbor beaches, a medical center, and lots of stores in South Boston. Broadly speaking, though, she lives in the gap between the state’s public housing policy and common sense.

In a WBZ-TV interview last week, Onyango, 58, came across as an ungrateful free-loader. Until May, when she was granted asylum by a judge, the native of Kenya had been living in Boston illegally for about six years courtesy of Massachusetts taxpayers. Yet Onyango managed to say with a straight face that “I did not take any advantage of the system. The system took advantage of me.’’ As for living expenses, Onyango said her sustenance “comes from heaven.’’ And a monthly disability check.

The common, fall-back position on illegal immigration is that nothing can be done until Congress hashes out a comprehensive immigration reform law. But state lawmakers can put their mark on the immigration debate, and without looking like a bunch of yahoos. The public is squarely behind such efforts. A Suffolk University survey this spring found 7-to-1 support among Massachusetts voters for requiring proof of legal residency for state subsidies, such as housing.

There are two types of public housing in the state — about 50,000 state-subsidized units and 34,000 federally-subsidized units. You can’t tell the difference by looking at them. But illegal immigrants know the difference. That’s because local housing authorities, which manage the developments, require proof of citizenship or legal immigration status for all household members at the federally-subsidized projects. But at the state-subsidized developments — such as Onyango’s abode — it’s just step right up, no questions asked about citizenship status.

The system is grossly unfair to low-income US citizens and legal immigrants on the waiting lists for public housing. In Boston alone, there are about 20,000 families on the waiting list for 14,000 occupied public housing units. But the hands of local housing officials are tied by a 1977 court ruling — federal, no less — that has been widely interpreted to mean that no immigrant — legal or illegal — can be denied a state-subsidized unit “solely because they are not citizens of the U.S.’’

So Onyango, and many like her, get to kick back in public housing despite deportation orders hanging over their heads. And no one is the wiser until an undocumented immigrant’s nephew runs for president.

Illegal immigrants can really milk the system on rent day. Public housing tenants are required to pay about one third of their incomes for rent. But housing officials have no way to verify the incomes of illegal immigrants who work under the table. That allows some illegals to report no income and live rent-free. How many do it? No one knows because housing officials can’t inquire about immigration status in the first place.

Republican state legislators have been trying unsuccessfully for years to pass a bill that would require public housing applicants to show citizenship or immigration status at state-subsidized projects, just like they do at federal projects. There’s nothing insidious about it, but it gets lumped in by opponents as an anti-immigrant effort. Last session, Senator Robert Hedlund of Weymouth sponsored a sensible bill with bipartisan support that would give US citizens and legal immigrants preference for public housing. But even that got watered down to nothing in the House.

Housing authorities should operate under one, consistent system when determining eligibility for public housing. And the federal system is the right model. It rejects entire households of illegal immigrants. But it recognizes mixed families consisting of undocumented parents and children born in the United States. In such cases, housing authorities prorate the rent so that only the children, who are US citizens, receive the rent subsidy. That’s how it works with food stamps, too. And it’s about as fair as one can be under the circumstances.

Not that fairness is keeping Onyango awake at night. She seemed surprised by the TV reporter’s questions about staying in public housing while living illegally in the United States.

“They gave it to me,’’ she responded. “Ask your system. I didn’t create the system.’’ Fair enough. The question has been posed. How much longer does Massachusetts want to be played for a fool?

Lawrence Harmon can be reached at harmon@globe.com.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by REWHBLCAIN

Public housing common sense
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed..._common_sense/



By Lawrence Harmon
Globe Columnist / September 26, 2010
PRESIDENT OBAMA’S aunt — Zeituni Onyango — lives in a 68-unit public housing complex for the elderly and disabled within walking distance of Boston Harbor beaches, a medical center, and lots of stores in South Boston. Broadly speaking, though, she lives in the gap between the state’s public housing policy and common sense.

In a WBZ-TV interview last week, Onyango, 58, came across as an ungrateful free-loader. Until May, when she was granted asylum by a judge, the native of Kenya had been living in Boston illegally for about six years courtesy of Massachusetts taxpayers. Yet Onyango managed to say with a straight face that “I did not take any advantage of the system. The system took advantage of me.’’ As for living expenses, Onyango said her sustenance “comes from heaven.’’ And a monthly disability check.

The common, fall-back position on illegal immigration is that nothing can be done until Congress hashes out a comprehensive immigration reform law. But state lawmakers can put their mark on the immigration debate, and without looking like a bunch of yahoos. The public is squarely behind such efforts. A Suffolk University survey this spring found 7-to-1 support among Massachusetts voters for requiring proof of legal residency for state subsidies, such as housing.

There are two types of public housing in the state — about 50,000 state-subsidized units and 34,000 federally-subsidized units. You can’t tell the difference by looking at them. But illegal immigrants know the difference. That’s because local housing authorities, which manage the developments, require proof of citizenship or legal immigration status for all household members at the federally-subsidized projects. But at the state-subsidized developments — such as Onyango’s abode — it’s just step right up, no questions asked about citizenship status.

The system is grossly unfair to low-income US citizens and legal immigrants on the waiting lists for public housing. In Boston alone, there are about 20,000 families on the waiting list for 14,000 occupied public housing units. But the hands of local housing officials are tied by a 1977 court ruling — federal, no less — that has been widely interpreted to mean that no immigrant — legal or illegal — can be denied a state-subsidized unit “solely because they are not citizens of the U.S.’’

So Onyango, and many like her, get to kick back in public housing despite deportation orders hanging over their heads. And no one is the wiser until an undocumented immigrant’s nephew runs for president.

Illegal immigrants can really milk the system on rent day. Public housing tenants are required to pay about one third of their incomes for rent. But housing officials have no way to verify the incomes of illegal immigrants who work under the table. That allows some illegals to report no income and live rent-free. How many do it? No one knows because housing officials can’t inquire about immigration status in the first place.

Republican state legislators have been trying unsuccessfully for years to pass a bill that would require public housing applicants to show citizenship or immigration status at state-subsidized projects, just like they do at federal projects. There’s nothing insidious about it, but it gets lumped in by opponents as an anti-immigrant effort. Last session, Senator Robert Hedlund of Weymouth sponsored a sensible bill with bipartisan support that would give US citizens and legal immigrants preference for public housing. But even that got watered down to nothing in the House.

Housing authorities should operate under one, consistent system when determining eligibility for public housing. And the federal system is the right model. It rejects entire households of illegal immigrants. But it recognizes mixed families consisting of undocumented parents and children born in the United States. In such cases, housing authorities prorate the rent so that only the children, who are US citizens, receive the rent subsidy. That’s how it works with food stamps, too. And it’s about as fair as one can be under the circumstances.

Not that fairness is keeping Onyango awake at night. She seemed surprised by the TV reporter’s questions about staying in public housing while living illegally in the United States.

“They gave it to me,’’ she responded. “Ask your system. I didn’t create the system.’’ Fair enough. The question has been posed. How much longer does Massachusetts want to be played for a fool?

Lawrence Harmon can be reached at harmon@globe.com.

Thank you for finding this and posting it.