Cal.State Mexican Insurgents Travel To AZ to Stand with brothers

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Twoller

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That's true, but mostly they organize to create labor and services for other immigrants and most of those other immigrants either are themselves illegal immigrants or contribute somewhere to illegal immigration. The single most important contribution to the presence of illegal immigrants everywhere is legal immigrants. Especially from South and Central America here in the US.

So, what is your job and why do you need legal immigrants from Mexico for its very existence?

The gentleman is an attorney. I believe the employees referred to are probably very aware of his conviction concerning illegal labor.

The confusion is in the use of the word "Mexican" in a racial sense rather than the more correct meaning of national identity.

As I understood him, most of the firm's employees are American citizens whose families may have been here for a century or more, or not. I assume the legal immigrant (s) is/are qualified and has a skill necessary to the firm.

It is illegal to discriminate against anyone concerning race or national origin. Any employer so blatant to do so will swiftly appear in court.

Being a legal immigrant means all the hoops have been jumped through, a respect for American immigration law. Just because someone has legally immigrated or even grown up among illegals does not indicate that person is sympathetic to the illegal cause.

One such legal immigrant from Guadalajara, Mexico was an active member of Save our State, went to many events.

Lupe Moreno - American like most of us by virtue of the 14th amendment - has an anti illegal crusade of her own, and has been a guest at Save our State http://articles.latimes.com/2005/aug...l/me-latinos14.

Then there's American citizen Ray Herrera, whose occupation was destroyed by illegal labor http://unitedstates.fm/ray.htm.

Things aren't so black and white, twoller.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Quote:"It is illegal to discriminate against anyone concerning race or national origin. Any employer so blatant to do so will swiftly appear in court."


Ilbegone, I wish that statement were totally true, it's not. MANY of the minorities/immigrants will discriminate on hiring without giving it a second thought. And use the excuse that they need someone who can speak their language to converse with the customers; especially when there's enough of that culture in an area that they do not have to cater to US citizens. We have so many saturated areas now that many of the immigrants/illegals have created their own segregation; something this country spent many years and billions of dollars to eliminate. Often those same immigrant/illegals will cry discrimination if it means an economic gain, yet given the opportunity many create their own segregation and micro-economic systems and will admit to each other they want 'their' people all around them. There is this type of 'self discrimination' in most people; the desire to be around the familiar. But when you immigrate to another country one should not expect to have the 'familiar' so much that it disrupts those that are citizens of that new country.

There are large groups on both sides of this issue, but it is the predominate side (those pro-La Raza) that are give a large stage to spew their garbage.

[ilbegone]

Jean,

It's like the old Marijuana Bob statement when facetiously asked if it was true that marijuana is illegal.

Bob's reply was to the effect that if there was a cop leaning on the hood of your car while you fired up a bong sitting behind the driver's wheel, it's probably illegal.

So the overt, in the open expression of discrimination is illegal. However, if one is rejected as "unqualified" that's a different story.

That one works on both sides of the aisle, and yes there is somewhat of a double standard at play in this realm.

There are a bazillion legitimate reasons and unfounded rationalizations to not hire or to terminate employment. You have much less of a chance of getting in trouble for what you don't say: "We're not hiring you" or "we don't need you any more" suffices because California is an at will employment state. Anything more is lawsuit fodder.