The lunatic asylum ?

[ilbegone]

I'm just not getting it.

If Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger had even thought about any part of the incredibly unethical, unconstitutional, and further illegal shenanigans perpetrated in and about the Obama administration there would have been national upheaval on a dramatic scale.

However, all the lying, scandals, stalling, collective executive branch amnesia defying congressional investigations and sheer insolent chutzpa heaped on the American people by the Obama administration has resulted in...

...near silence.

I just cannot wrap my head around all this.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

I'm just not getting it.

If Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger had even thought about any part of the incredibly unethical, unconstitutional, and further illegal shenanigans perpetrated in and about the Obama administration there would have been national upheaval on a dramatic scale.

However, all the lying, scandals, stalling, collective executive branch amnesia defying congressional investigations and sheer insolent chutzpa heaped on the American people by the Obama administration has resulted in...

...near silence.

I just cannot wrap my head around all this.

That was a different time, when we had an educated society and citizens that cared for and protected our republic. Today most just care about being entertained and letting others take on the responsibility.

We've had 5 years of Obama putting things in place and knocking out any opposition. He has what can only be described as a cult following that will follow him no matter what, and he uses those followers to attack any opposition. Think of Jim Jones at what lengths those people went to follow their leader there are huge parallels between the two. Look at Hitler and you can see how such a person can gain strength. Obama has and still uses the non-profits to spread his "word".

We have a society today that would rather stay home and play video games or watch Dancing With the Stars than get involved. Many of those same people don't have a clue of what a republic is, or who the Vice President is for that matter. Ask people on the street what the three forms of power are in this country and you'd be lucky to get 30% to give you the correct answer. That was something we learned in grammar school or at least by the 7th grade. But not today, today the bar is so low that teachers feel accomplished if they can get students to write one sentence properly at a fifth grade level.
Obama is so much like Hitler and Jim Jones it amazes me. We have a cult society where our idols are what Hollywood throws in our face and everyone wants to be part of the cool crowd, especially the media.
What you're seeing out there is a decline of society and our freedoms being taken away without so much as a single cry. It is so sad.

[wetibbe]

I didn't post my thoughts about Adolph Hitler, but not because I was timid, just didn't think it was time yet. But it is now time.

The parallel with Hitler's popularity has weighed on my mind, not because he wanted to dominate the world or promote a super race but more specifically by the way the German people acquiesced and apparently supported all of the malevolent activity in his rise to power prior to WWII and during.

Dysfunctional big O' isn't actually smart in my view but a stooge surrounded by cunning handlers who manipulate him. None the less he promotes the destructive line to catastrophe for all of us.

He is absolutely eligible for very egregious actions making him certainly a candidate for removal and disbarment.

Our system of Government has many flaws and misgivings but lamentably it is still the best overall in our modern world. As much a Coup de Etat would be beneficial I cannot, in good conscience, support such.

Things will work out eventually in the next election.

[ilbegone]

Hitler was a street fighter, a veteran of the western front trenches. Obama is a community organizer from Chicago with a law degree.

Things were pretty bad in Germany after WWI and during the depression, Hitler put his people to work (and it wound up with unfinished WWI business erupting into WWII). We have a recession, but the only people truly going hungry in America tend to be mentally ill and live under the overpass or the children of substance abusers who don't feed their kids.

Hitler made nice and bidded his time while Germany was weak, then aggressively pushed his nationalistic issues with diplomacy by other means (war). Obama pussified a strong and just nation (very just compared to the unspoken international standard), making us an international laughing stock which has no credibility.

Hitler could work a crowd which was desperately seeking national pride, Obama works people who either have no idea of what an exceptional America was, or are bent on tearing America down.

Obama would destroy America in the name of "social justice", Hitler converted genocide into a state sponsored industry.

Obama and Hitler are apples and oranges, and both opposite extremes represented by those personalities are so friggin' wrong.

On the other hand, Lenin was a pacifist until the moment was right for the Bolsheviks to make their move, and then Lenin became a mass murdering tyrant. However, I believe Lenin was murdered by his successors, then cynically embalmed and put on public display as a hero to the soviet cause. On the other hand, one thing leads to another and Hitler was a mere schoolboy concerning genocide compared to Stalin.

And, we don't hear much about that last fact.

Imagine them taking Obama after death to the taxidermist to have him stuffed and putting him behind glass at a lectern with his right index finger aloft as a symbol of "hope and change".

Could happen.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

Hitler was a street fighter, a veteran of the western front trenches. Obama is a community organizer from Chicago with a law degree.

Things were pretty bad in Germany after WWI and during the depression, Hitler put his people to work (and it wound up with unfinished WWI business erupting into WWII). We have a recession, but the only people truly going hungry in America tend to be mentally ill and live under the overpass or the children of substance abusers who don't feed their kids.

Hitler made nice and bidded his time while Germany was weak, then aggressively pushed his nationalistic issues with diplomacy by other means (war). Obama pussified a strong and just nation (very just compared to the unspoken international standard), making us an international laughing stock which has no credibility.

Hitler could work a crowd which was desperately seeking national pride, Obama works people who either have no idea of what an exceptional America was, or are bent on tearing America down.

Obama would destroy America in the name of "social justice", Hitler converted genocide into a state sponsored industry.

Obama and Hitler are apples and oranges, and both opposite extremes represented by those personalities are so friggin' wrong.

On the other hand, Lenin was a pacifist until the moment was right for the Bolsheviks to make their move, and then Lenin became a mass murdering tyrant. However, I believe Lenin was murdered by his successors, then cynically embalmed and put on public display as a hero to the soviet cause. On the other hand, one thing leads to another and Hitler was a mere schoolboy concerning genocide compared to Stalin.

And, we don't hear much about that last fact.

Imagine them taking Obama after death to the taxidermist to have him stuffed and putting him behind glass at a lectern with his right index finger aloft as a symbol of "hope and change".

Could happen.

You're taking the meaning to literal. The point being made is how many both have/had following them. In spite to how wrong or bad they are/were both are/were still being looked upon as though they are an honest and good person no matter what the evidence to the contraire. Obama has dead people lying in his path (there are more than just Benghazi), yet his cult followers ignore it.

There was a man with cancer who lost his medical insurance due to Obamacare and went on Fox New to expose what is happening and days later he is being audited by the IRS.

This guy needs to be not only impeached, but put in jail because anyone else would be seeing jail time.

[Rim05]

Careful there. We have many that I think should be "stuffed" and many I think worse of, but there they are on Fox wanting some one else punished. Fox and Followers are the worst.
You can forget it, Obama will not be impeached.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Rim05

Careful there. We have many that I think should be "stuffed" and many I think worse of, but there they are on Fox wanting some one else punished. Fox and Followers are the worst.
You can forget it, Obama will not be impeached.

Bill Clinton was impeached, and he was a democrat with an equally powerful cheering section. There's an old saying in the business world, and it applies to politics as well: "no one is indispensible". Obama could cross a line with the American people, and/or the lobby that brought him to office, and keeps him from political harm. The type of persons that make presidents like Obama, Clinton, and the Bush's for that matter, are ruthless, unconscionable, and manipulative. They'd sacrifice Obama for the right price, and it might be a lot lower than you can imagine. And it might be to protect themselves or one of their own that was slightly more valuable to them in another fashion.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

You're taking the meaning too literal. The point being made is how many both have/had following them. In spite to how wrong or bad they are/were both are/were still being looked upon as though they are an honest and good person no matter what the evidence to the contraire. Obama has dead people lying in his path (there are more than just Benghazi), yet his cult followers ignore it.

There was a man with cancer who lost his medical insurance due to Obamacare and went on Fox New to expose what is happening and days later he is being audited by the IRS.

This guy needs to be not only impeached, but put in jail because anyone else would be seeing jail time.

I got you right, and my post, whether or not Chrystal clear, agrees with your post.

Hitler and Obama are two very different people, but they could both work a crowd who heard what they wanted to hear.

And the bit about Obama being preserved after death and placed in public view behind glass to be a hero to a cause...

After Lenin's death Lenin was embalmed and put on public display as a hero father to the soviet communist cause. I believe Lenin was shoved out of the way by being murdered by his successors who posthumously and cynically placed him on display as a necessary political/cultural hero (the value of propaganda). Thus the Soviet oligarchy marched in a butcher fest parade until Josef Stalin became the only figure in the parade (besides deceased speech prop / slogan fodder Vladamir Lenin).

So, we get to Obama, a man whose past is mostly a mystery (not quite believably explained with wild stories from both extreme sides) who became the most radical president to have ever held office. How did he get there, and what is his future?

Maybe Obama might serve the same fate as Lenin, to serve out his usefulness, be disposed of, then be cynically presented to the public as a hero to the "progressive" cause.

Look at Kennedy. A WII hero who wasn't really that good of a president, but was made out to be an executive branch God after his death, and boy, did the far left make hay out of his assassination.

[wetibbe]

By the minute.

Todays news:

# The 7 million expected by the administration to sign up is now actually 360,000 to date.

# Of those 360,000 sign ups there is only a small fraction, about 1%, who have actually paid the fee. Others have not paid and will not be able to be treated by medical care.

# The 7 million that "O" was depending on to fund his Black Liberation Theology agenda will NOT happen.

# The overwhelming majority of young have opted to pay the fine instead of subscribing to the ruinous fees.

# Interestingly ONLY those who have refunds due will be tapped by the IRS for collecting the fine for failure to sign up to the Communist Socialised medicine. Those not due a refund, or owe taxes, or don't owe any cannot be fined.

In my opinion this is an incredible, ill advised, experiment in social justice that has no precedent and that is invented by hopelessly incompetent, inexperienced fools that have embarked on a journey without plan, forethought nor resolution.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

I'm just not getting it.

If Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger had even thought about any part of the incredibly unethical, unconstitutional, and further illegal shenanigans perpetrated in and about the Obama administration there would have been national upheaval on a dramatic scale.

However, all the lying, scandals, stalling, collective executive branch amnesia defying congressional investigations and sheer insolent chutzpa heaped on the American people by the Obama administration has resulted in...

...near silence.

I just cannot wrap my head around all this.

Because if you do mention it, well you might offend someone. Be called a bully or one of the many other talking points provided by this administration.

This thread started out discussing the insane dishonest attack on our healthcare system. There is one main person in the forefront responsible for all this crap and that is Obama!!! If telling the truth about that is accepted as unacceptable and nothing is said or done, then we as citizens are just as responsible. The media certainly has lost almost all credibility.