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Old 12-13-2009, 06:33 AM
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The memo also said agents will be trained twice a year on the Fourth Amendment, which protects people from unreasonable search and seizures, and should not arrest immigrants who are sick, disabled or the sole caretakers of children.quote

So the key to being able to stay here illegally is to have a kid and not be married. There you have it, in black and white.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:47 AM
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The memo also said agents will be trained twice a year on the Fourth Amendment, which protects people from unreasonable search and seizures, and should not arrest immigrants who are sick, disabled or the sole caretakers of children.quote

So the key to being able to stay here illegally is to have a kid and not be married. There you have it, in black and white.
I believe I've read that ICE agents won't arrest anyone not specifically on their list during sweeps for criminal aliens.

It seems the policy is no more arresting of incidentally contacted illegal aliens.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:13 AM
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ICE agents arrest 286 in crackdown on criminal immigrants in California

The operation netted 96 in L.A County and focused on convicted criminals, those who had ignored deportation orders or who were deported and reentered the United States.

By Anna Gorman

December 12, 2009


Immigration agents arrested nearly 300 foreign nationals with criminal records during a three-day sweep in California, officials announced Friday.

The operation was the largest of its kind and resulted in the arrests of illegal immigrants convicted of robbery, assault and rape, said John Morton, head of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The sweep ended Thursday night.

Officials said 96 of the 286 arrests took place in Los Angeles County. Among those arrested in the county were a suspected gang member from El Salvador who had a 2004 robbery conviction and a Guatemalan man with a 1993 conviction for lewd acts with a child under 14.

"These are not people we want walking our streets," Morton said.

The arrests were conducted as part of a controversial program designed to arrest and deport immigrants who have criminal records, who have ignored deportation orders or who were deported and illegally reentered the United States. About 400 officers and agents took part in the operation. Those arrested included people from Mexico, Denmark, Taiwan and Tonga.

Critics have said the "fugitive operations" program, which has rapidly expanded since it started in 2003, has created fear in immigrant communities by sending armed agents into neighborhoods and pulling parents away from their children.

To fill quotas, immigration agents have also often arrested people without criminal records or outstanding deportation orders, according to a report by the Migration Policy Institute earlier this year.

During a visit to Los Angeles over the summer, Morton announced that he would end the quotas.

Only six people arrested in the operation this week did not have criminal records, he said. On Friday, Morton said that the agency is enforcing immigration laws but that there is a particular focus on arresting and deporting criminals, through this program and another in the jails and prisons across the nation.

"We are an agency of limited resources," he said. "It makes a tremendous amount of sense for us as an agency, and for the country, for us to start with criminal offenders."

Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, said Friday that the sweep demonstrates Immigration and Customs Enforcement is serious about going after convicted criminals. But she said she believed some of the crimes may have been minor and that this is not necessarily the most effective way to fight crime in the community.

"I'm very interested in finding out really what was the criminal activity," she said.

There are 104 teams of officers nationwide who conduct such operations. More than 35,000 people were arrested nationwide by fugitive operations teams in the 2009 fiscal year, according to ICE. Of those, nearly 89% either had criminal records or outstanding deportation orders.

Although some were never deported after serving time for criminal convictions, many of those arrested this week had previously been deported and returned to the United States illegally, authorities said. For example, Ulises Vazuiz Arucha, 37, was convicted of first-degree robbery in 2004 and deported to El Salvador in 2007. The suspected gang member was arrested in Reseda on Dec. 8.

At least 17 of those arrested will face further federal prosecution, authorities said. They could receive sentences of up to 20 years in federal prison.

"These individuals are demonstrated threats who have proven their disdain for the laws of the United States and have lengthy criminal histories and rap sheets," Assistant U.S. Atty. Curtis Kin said.
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A comment from one of the readers of the LA Times in the story blog:

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Let me see if I understand this...


IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD
LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM
AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY
AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL
PRISON TO ROT.


IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY...

YOU GET A JOB,

A DRIVERS LICENSE,

SOCIAL SECURITY CARD AND BENEFITS, WELFARE,

FOOD STAMPS,

CREDIT CARDS,

SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,

A FREE CELL WITH FREE MINUTES,

FREE EDUCATION,

FREE HEALTH CARE,

A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON AND,

IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE!

Posted by: JohnR | December 11, 2009 at 03:13 PM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-in-sweep.html
lots of interesting comments concerning that story
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:56 AM
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Once again a "crackdown" on illegals really means waiting until they commit some second crime after the crime of being here. It won't be anything like a crackdown until we see them hunting down and throwing illegals for being illegals. And this will not be a practical exercise until local law enforcement has its hands completely untied and can enforce the law against being in the country without permission. It should be against the law to restrict local enforcement from arresting people for being in the country illegally.
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I could have found that many down the street here at home depot

What a farce
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I could have found that many down the street here at home depot

What a farce

Exactly. It's all for show.
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