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09-11-2013, 05:33 AM
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Sad to say that so many still only care about his skin color and don't have a clue as to what has happened during these last six years, Obama's time in office.
Just wait for the next six years. Ever hear about 'globalazation? 
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09-11-2013, 10:49 AM
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The one was Saul Alinsky's (died 1972) book, Rules for radicals which was described by the Chicago Sun-Times as influencing a young organizer named Barack Obama. Alinsky is further described as having impressed Hillary Clinton. Jose Angel Gutierrez said that he organized the La Raza Unida party and take over of Zavala County, Texas using Alinsky's methods during the late 60's and early 70's. I see Obama as having complied with Alinsky's premise that once power is gained by a dissenting group, the new group does the very same things they were so hot and bothered about concerning the previous group in power. For example, Obama goes way beyond whatever Bush did with bypassing Congress and becoming a virtual dictator with executive orders, fast moves, and dirty tricks. Another would be freedom of expression and association, or concerns that the ballot box is being tampered with and other voter fraud. There is always the bypassing of democracy and will of the people in one form or another, such as "We have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it", or using government as a political weapon, such as IRS and Homeland Security shenanigans. Also, a la Alinski theory, Obama was trapped with the Syrian problem by being out of his experience (community organizer against city hall vs. how executive power is expressed in a rough world). The capable community organizer brought about Obama Care against much opposition, the incompetent President was boxed in by Putin utilizing an Alinsky tactic of forcing the establishment to live up to its own rules. As I read Alinsky, to organize is to polarize, there has to be cultivated (no ambivalence at all) hate and, depending on the morality of the moment (depending on whether winning or losing) anything goes. Of course, all this polarization has to be built on some sort of "moral" foundation. The other book is Government of wolves. I don't entirely buy into the whole premise, and in some cases the author is obviously winging it, such as tying "Aztlan" (a born in America pipe dream) in with a Mexican drug cartel which employs a "Zappatista"* named Paco who is covered in gang tatoos, along with everyone Mexican answering the phone with "Hola". Some of it smacks too much of conspiracy theory. It definitely references a borderless three nation American Union and the hard core far left taking power in America. But there is enough, such as the IRS attacking right wing organizations and much, much else which is eerily going on as I type this. As well, there have been other things in the past which I scoffed at then but later found to be true. To me it was just a typical fiction book about English mercenaries somewhat along the line of Tom Clancy until I got about to page 100, then I couldn't put it down. I believe both books are well worth a read. * Zapatista. Originally a follower of Emiliano Zapata based out of Morelos during the 1910 Mexican revolution, his concern was of centuries long Hacienda encroachment on communal Indian land used for subsistence farming. Emiliano Zapata was treacherously assassinated by other Mexicans, which gained him a niche in the Mexican Pantheon of heroes. Also follower of an early 1990's uprising in Chiapas provoked by Mexican President Salina's land ownership policies which adversely effected Indian subsistence farming. The majority of the uprising was stirred up by middle class, Marxist university students from Mexico City. As I understand it showman "Subcommandante Marcos" eventually faded away into irrelevant obscurity. The vast majority of both types of Zapatistas were rural, subsistence farming Indians The incredibly crude and sadistic Paco, to me, fits as a cartel character but is an unlikely "Zappatista" - which is misspelled. Maybe the author was thinking of Frank Zappa.
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09-11-2013, 05:43 PM
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He placed so many other unqualified people in those positions all around him and continues to move them around as each gets caught promoting his agenda behind the scenes in illegal ways, that it has become clear to even the most infatuated of Obama's groupies that he idolizes himself and many would say he's not fit for the job. It's a hard fall for some.
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#5
09-12-2013, 05:17 AM
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Well look who popped up.
Sorry to have to tell you but, I did not just 'pop' up. I am here all the time, I just do not post. Some members here are helpful but others are just plain hateful. Wish I had wrecked my danged car the day you got a ride in it.
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#6
09-12-2013, 09:13 AM
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Rimo your funny! Glad to see you here.
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09-12-2013, 09:47 AM
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By the way, the left always calls other who don't agree with them "hateful" or uneducated or intolerant. Try to stay away from that. Please stick to the issue, which was Obama. Throwing names isn't helpful in a discussion. I just recognize a spin to change the topic when I see one, and making the statement bold does not give it any extra impact when it's not significant enough for it.
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09-12-2013, 09:58 AM
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If I may interject; Obama would be a crumb to me no matter what color he was, given the majority of his actions on illegals. What can I say; I've been a one-issue voter for quite some time now. 
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09-11-2013, 08:30 AM
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1. enable cookies (remember me) for this forum. the down side is that you can't just come and read the forum without signing in automatically. 2. copy your posts before you post them, and then re-post them as if it was new. This is my method. The forum has a timeout feature so people won't stay logged on in perpetuity, thereby taking up bandwidth and slowing down performance. It's one of those trade-off things Sorry... 
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09-11-2013, 09:45 AM
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If you forget, sometimes you can hit the back button until you get back to the reply screen then save the post, relog in and proceed to paste and submit reply.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show.
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