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Old 05-13-2010, 05:08 AM
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Default Angry Morgan Hill parents speak out.

Angry Morgan Hill Parents Pack School Meeting After US Flag Flap
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:19 AM
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Yes, it's time to speak out loud and clear. The statement that it's always been white against brown, is such a joke. It's a lie!
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:16 AM
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Let's hope the protest today is a success.
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:12 PM
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Several points here...

Cinco De Mayo isn't much celebrated in Mexico, except for localized festivity in or around Puebla.

It was introduced to California during the 1960's via the American Chicano movement, the blather about it being ubiquitous since the 1862 battle is bullshit. It doesn't matter which race obsessed ethnic professor spouts it or which "journalist" regurgitates it, it's still and always will be bullshit.

It was picked up by the liquor companies and promoted to fatten the corporate bottom line.

Therefore, it is an American booze festival. There shouldn't be any problem with American flags displayed on that day.
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:08 PM
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Here are two articles that cover today's protest. There are some videos of the event on both articles websites. The first one has the best. I think Robin was there, it sure looks like her in one of the videos. The bikers sure came in force.

Morgan Hill: Protest at Live Oak High on anniversary of American flag T-shirt incident

MORGAN HILL -- Standing silently at attention Monday morning -- Cinco de Mayo -- almost 50 self-described "Patriots" held tall U.S flags in front of a high school still at the center of a public debate over free speech and cultural pride.
"We're just here to support the First Amendment's right to free speech," said Georgine Scott-Codiga, president of the Gilroy Morgan Hill Patriots group. She spoke after the protest in front of Live Oak High School. "Cinco de Mayo is a circumstance of the issue. The issue is free speech."
By the end of the school day one student called the entire tense, discomforting protest by three groups of adults, "completely unnecessary."
Although most students at Live Oak were shielded behind a fence installed today in preparation for protests, student Ethan Cox, 17, spoke with members of the media and told them that today's students are tired of the events from four years ago that have spurred so much attention and stress today.
"There is absolutely no racial tension at Live Oak High School," said Cox who described the events in school as, "just like any other day."
Later tonight, a group of Latino school parents and community leaders plan their own gathering. Their argument has been that the show of U.S. flags implies Mexican Americans and other Latinos cannot be patriotic and proud of their heritage at the same time. In the emotional run-up to Monday, the Latino group decided against a counter demonstration in front of the school that might have led to trouble between the two groups.
Apparently not taking any chances, school officials put up a long, tarped fence in front of the main entrance at Live Oak. Nearly all students arrived by car after passing checkpoints manned by school guards. Morgan Hill police officers were stationed outside and inside the school.
Biker bunch
In between those polar groups, a third cadre of motorcycle riding protesters showed up in time to be at the school when students were dismissed. The riders, a mystery for weeks to school and police authorities in Morgan Hill, were all carrying large, American flags. Bill Roller, president of the group, said they were part of the "2 Million Bikers," that massively converged on Washington D.C. last September 11, 2013. The bikers from around the country rolled into D.C. as a counter protest to "The Million Muslim March, " which organizers later revised to, "Million American March Against Fear."
But while the D.C. "March," petered out on that 12th anniversary of the infamous terrorist attacks, the "Bikers," overwhelmed the capital city with a massive show of people and machines. On Monday afternoon in Morgan Hill, only two dozens riders showed up and gathered outside Live Oak High as supporters of the constitution and especially the First Amendment. Still, they said they were determined to make sure the kids at Live Oak were not harmed today in any way.
In their one overt show, the Bikers moved near as allowed to a tall, non-see-through fence and they burst into a very loud singing of the National Anthem.
Roller says after the students come out of school, the Bikers will disperse and that there will not be a ride around the town as rumored last week.
The demonstration stemmed from a 2010 Cinco de Mayo celebration on campus when four boys showed up wearing US flag T shirts, proclaiming it was a show of American pride. Some Latino students took it as a cultural slap and tempers flared. School officials ordered the boys to turn the shirts inside out or go home.
That order sparked a national debate over free speech and ethic pride. A federal court ruled in February, almost four years later, that campus safety outweighed the student's First Amendment's claims.
Cox, the student, said he agreed with the court's decision by intoning, "just because you have the right to free speech doesn't mean you have to use it."
Violent fears
Kendall and Joy Jones, The parents of one of the American flag-wearing boys, have filed an appeal of the decision by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court. They argue that the school was wrong to read the flag T-shirts as an incitement to violence and that the wrong students were punished.
"You deal with the perpetrators of violence, not the objects of violence," Kendall Jones said. "That's why this is upside down" He and his wife held up a cross made of four-by-four inch construction lumber and attached U.S. and Mexico flags over it.
"We're Christians. God loves all people, Kendall Jones said. "We're here to day we're not against any race" Joy Jones said their son, Daniel Galli is now 20 and enrolled at the University of Nevada at Reno, where is studying for a career in military law.
Scott-Codiga and others in her group bristled at the question of race. She said she is half Mexican.
"What am I supposed to do, hate my own people?" She said. "I feel like we stood up for our rights. We did not allow the fear-mongers to dictate to us." Mihai Bulea, a Romanian immigrant and member of the group, said school officials and the 9th Circuit overreached in the flag T-shirt decision.
"That's very different than yelling fire in a theater," he said. "There should never be a day in America when a citizen is told he cannot wear a shirt with the American flag."
Morgan Hill school superintendent Steve Betando, who patrolled the sidewalk and school during the demonstration, said students and staff had moved beyond the controversy. He said no extra, flag-related restrictions of any kind were in force Monday on campus.
"This is not a divided school," he said. "It's a very united school."
As for flags, young Cox said he saw no flags at school on Monday of any kind.
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Flag controversy sparks protests on Cinco de Mayo in Morgan Hill

MORGAN HILL, Calif. (KGO) -- Nearly three dozen people held American flags outside a South Bay high school Monday because of a controversial event that happened four years ago. The flag display was a silent protest. It has to do with a federal court decision and students who are not allowed to wear American flags on Cinco de Mayo.
People have different points of view. And those opposing views were expressed in different ways Monday. One rally was centered on diversity and unity, while two earlier ones focused on the American flag and patriotism.
Long before students showed up for class, adults were outside to make a point. They stand by the flag.
Four years ago, four students were told to cover up the American flags on their t-shirts because it was Cinco de Mayo. It led to a lawsuit, and an appellate court decision in February that backed school administrators.
However, student leaders told the district they'd rather focus on preparing for advanced placement exam.
"They want to make it a regular day," said Morgan Hill Unified School District Superintendent Steve Betando. "The students have expressed that they don't like the outside attention, and we're trying to help them with that."
And the Gilroy-Morgan Hill Patriots, organizing Monday morning's quiet rally, went along.
"We didn't bring signs, we didn't bring anything with words on it, we were just silent," said the group's president, Georgine Scott-Codiga. "And we're leaving right now, as soon as we're done with this because we did it before school, so we're not disrupting the school."
But one man, whose son Daniel Galli was one of the four students involved in the flag t-shirt controversy, was there to spread a message of diversity and respect. Kendall Jones talked to ABC7 News as he assembled a sign post.
"We are a nation of many races, many religions, and many creeds," said Jones. "And be proud of that fact. A nation of immigrants. But do not make this thing a race issue of us versus them because that's not what it was. It's that's not what it is at all."
Galli is now a student at the University of Nevada, Reno, and is an Army reservist.
His mother, Joy Jones, tells ABC7 News that despite the elapsed time, they're still ready to appeal the case to the Ninth Circuit.
"He was accused of being a troublemaker wanting to start trouble and not being part of the unity by wearing an American flag and now he's out there defending the flag," she said. "And that's what it's about for these kids, pride in their country."
Galli wants to be a military lawyer, a career choice his mother says was directly inspired by the flag controversy.
A band of motorcyclists also gathered Monday to ride over to the school with
flags. Most are veterans -- members of the American Legion and Patriot Guard.
"We feel that it's wrong to tell one group it's okay to do this and then tell the other group that you can't wear yours, you know?" said veteran Bill Roller. "So we're here primarily for the First Amendment of the Constitution."
Organizers of a gathering planned for Monday night at a community park are calling for unity, respect, and peace.
Live Oak students created some banners and placed them on the temporary fence surrounding the campus.
One is a picture of an oak, showing the roots of the tree. Another says "United at the Roots." And the third one says, "We are all different branches of the same tree."
Students also created a video and posted it on the school district's YouTube and Facebook pages.
It shows students visiting classrooms to talk about the incident four years ago and respecting different cultures.
Many of them have grown tired of the attention and controversy.
"What I think the teachable moment for them is for us adults to listen to the kids about wanting to respect and accept one another, accept each other's' ideals and understand other people can have opinions and people can disagree with one another and still get along," Superintendent Betando said
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