What Should We Do?

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by PochoPatriot

I have given this great though over the past couple of days. Yes, I am very pissed off about this incident. Sadly, I just do not see enough of a response to go through all the effort to organize an event. As of this posting, this thread has been viewed 50 times, but only three people have even cared enough to post a response. One person did PM me on this forum. That person is a fighter, and I would gladly partner with that person to make this happen. I know that there are people who are passionate about this issue. The response here has been underwhelming, to say the least.

Even on my personal Facebook page the response has been at best, tepid. It seems that some people, who were leaders in this movement, are just too busy playing Facebook games to actually do something. The grass roots border security movement is dead, or at best dying.

I am not willing to put together a protest where only a handful of people come out, and where the counter-protesters come out in the hundreds. The security risks will simply out weigh the benefits. The LAPD will not enforce the law, should we be attacked by counters.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong, and that people will get a spark lit under their collective asses.

SOS has traditionally gone into battle with underwhelming numbers. It is the mark of dedication. That said, if we want to make the investment in physical terms, we should have a plan in place that will realize the profits from that investment. I don't mind working an area like this, but I don't want it to just be observed as an outburst.

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

SOS has traditionally gone into battle with underwhelming numbers. It is the mark of dedication. That said, if we want to make the investment in physical terms, we should have a plan in place that will realize the profits from that investment. I don't mind working an area like this, but I don't want it to just be observed as an outburst.

AG, I realize that we would be outnumbered. We always have been, but just look at the response! I can count on one hand the number of people that have responded! That's just not enough people for me to make the effort.

Not to mention, the fact that there are people with numbers, who will advise people to avoid any event organized by a person on this board. I just don;t see any reason to do this.

[Patriotic Army Mom]

We are all out here, and the girls are so much older now. Really think that most of us are waiting for the big do or die one. Everywhere I turn, people are tired of this, but are waiting for something to happen before going into the street.

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Patriotic Army Mom

We are all out here, and the girls are so much older now. Really think that most of us are waiting for the big do or die one. Everywhere I turn, people are tired of this, but are waiting for something to happen before going into the street.

Like I said I will do the footwork to get something done, but I need to see commitment. I don't see any sort of anger any more.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by PochoPatriot

Like I said I will do the footwork to get something done, but I need to see commitment. I don't see any sort of anger any more.

Anger isn't the best director. People want to get behind winners. I can advise you on laying out groundwork fo this. If it was co-ordinated, then an event could be held at a strategic time that would compliment the effort. I'll sned you my phone number, and you know my email if you want to proceed, I'll invest the effort

[Jeanfromfillmore]

If this proceeds should some of the planning be done behind the scenes?

[Patriotic Army Mom]

We are angry. That, controlling it is overwhelming sometimes. So, many teenagers feel the same as we do, and trying to calm them down takes talking and sometimes work. Hopefully something will work out for all of us and we will be ready to rock and roll.

[ilbegone]

I did work on more than several occasions in the garment district in down town Los Angeles. It is crowded with both native and foreign born to begin with, and tourists seeking bargains on cheap knock offs make it an elbow to elbow experience. Sidewalk and parking space vendors are ubiquitous. Many of the streets are narrow and there are quite a few one way streets. Parking sucks.

I never had a problem there even though I placed a large American flag on my truck, originally in response to Cinco de Mayo hype and the multitude of Mexican flags which sprouted up in the area. However I am acquainted with a woman who grew up in an adjacent neighborhood but now lives in San Bernardino county. It is my impression that she lived in constant fear of street and other violence. She has preached to her children not to use slang while speaking Spanish because of what the meaning of those words might be to people from other places, you might wind up dead from an unintended insult. On the other hand, I was amazed and somewhat shocked that a couple of clothing vendors stocked little boy T-shirts with the word Chingon (vulgar word meaning something like "bad ass fucker") emblazoned on them.

The illegal rabbit vendors are dirt bags and being illegal they need to go, there is no question about that. However, the issue was not only about animal cruelty by people who shouldn't be here to begin with but also about about naive outsiders snitching in plain sight of the offenders to a police officer in what can be a rough neighborhood, which probably occurred after a heated exchange between the parties.

Think about this: The county DA isn't pursuing the case like he might be inclined to do if the assault was in an affluent neighborhood. The City attorney is filing presumably because negative publicity may drive away tourist dollars. The area is confined, crowded, difficult to escape from if flight is necessary and neither the LAPD nor the legal system in Los Angeles county are to be trusted. If a demonstration is organized, make sure no one attending is as naive about the conditions as was the party with the animal cruelty complaint - it will be perceived in several ways from being a gathering of discriminatory bigots to fueling more negative publicity in a commercial zone of a nearly bankrupt city, and all the protesters will be outsiders. Have your eyes wide open and don't bring children.