BREAKING! Obama Papers Leaking Out! Birth Papers-School Papers Exposed!

[Cruisingfool]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

You sir are flat out wrong! Obummers mother was under the age of 18 at the time of birth of this turd! She was married to a british citizen when she popped out this turd, you might want to check out the Law!

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Cruisingfool

You sir are flat out wrong! Obummers mother was under the age of 18 at the time of birth of this turd! She was married to a british citizen when she popped out this turd, you might want to check out the Law!

I do check out the law every now and then. What impact would Obama's mother being a minor and married (to anyone from anywhere) have upon the citizenship of her Hawaiian-born child?

Originally Posted by Star

The Constitution has special requirements for holders of the presidency. One of them is “natural born citizen.” That is a higher standard than “citizen.” It is a higher standard than “native citizen.”

Alright, then it is important where he was born, right? OK, what is the difference between a natural born citizen and a native citizen? Also, I'd be curious to know where you found or find the source that is the substance of your answer.

Originally Posted by Kathy63

No one ever needed to lie about a Hawaiian birth certificate. Look up the Hawaiian law. Because of a quirk in the law, any parent who is a resident of Hawaii can have the child's birth registered in the state any time up to their first birthday. That's why Hawaii has a registration of live birth instead of a certificate of live birth. The only "certificate" is the vault copy with the doctor's signature. He might very well be a natural born citizen and we would know that if he would permit that vault copy to be made public.

And how many people have access to the vault, Kathy? Are they all Obama sympathizers and supporters? How much money would it be worth to someone ... anyone ... to get a copy of this thing to a news source, presuming it states he was born in Kenya, Indonesia, MexiCali or whatever the story is this week?

Also, your response doesn't address how he got into law school, years before he ever held elected office, if he didn't complete his undergraduate work at Columbia as has been represented.