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Old 06-16-2011, 11:22 PM
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Default SOS Protests United Farm Workers At State Capitol

The United Farmworkers Union tried to flex a bit of muscle at the state capitol today, and SOS was there to kick a little sand in their faces. The rally they had started at 9:30 at a local park, but didn't get to the capitol until 12:30. I got there a few minutes after that with a small sign that read:



I was immediately engaged by two or three cops who said they had concern for my safety, and mentioned that I should look around and see that I was outnumbered. They also insisted on my ID, which I did comply with, but only because I do want them to know who I am, and that I'm not afraid of the ID boogeyman. I also warned them that a lesser man might sue them over a violation of the 4th amendment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=



Next, we have Darryl Steinberg, senate pro-tem, walking directly by us and an illegal vendor. I felt compelled to point out the underground economy right in front of the state capitol, and his own uppity nose


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=



But a few moments after Darryl walked by, he was up on the stage pandering to the poor downtrodden farmworker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=



And lastly, after one of those "we were here first" types came over and started yelling at me, several cops and CHP moved in to...get this...threaten to arrest me for...get this...what I was saying (1st amendment speech)
Not only did they threaten to arrest me for exercising a constitutional right, but also tried to insult my intelligence several times. I stood on both principle and legal precedent this time. What gets me is that the other guy was the one who came over and started the BS, and he was ushered away. I didn't challenge the guy to a fight or anything, but it's me they spend all their effort on. Not to keen on these cops right now. Also pointed out the illegal vendors twice, but got no response from them on it...nothing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

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Old 06-17-2011, 05:52 AM
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I wish I could hire at least four people to help you. We all know the position of the police. They are so damn lazy, they would rather quiet you so they can ride around and smile at the UFW members.
This is some of what we had when we were in the Streets here in So Cal. We could not set a foot off the side walk and the Animals could yell any thing at us....and they did .Now will some one tell I cannot call some one an Animal?

The officer tells you that you are out numbered, well don't we all know that? I can't tell you how long I I have known that. One time when we were in down town LA, I was standing no more than 10 feet when I spotted an officer filming US.

Thanks for doing a good and lonely job. Anyone out there want to help AG?
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Old 06-17-2011, 08:39 AM
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Great job!
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:06 PM
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I wish I could hire at least four people to help you. We all know the position of the police. They are so damn lazy, they would rather quiet you so they can ride around and smile at the UFW members.
This is some of what we had when we were in the Streets here in So Cal. We could not set a foot off the side walk and the Animals could yell any thing at us....and they did .Now will some one tell I cannot call some one an Animal?

The officer tells you that you are out numbered, well don't we all know that? I can't tell you how long I I have known that. One time when we were in down town LA, I was standing no more than 10 feet when I spotted an officer filming US.

Thanks for doing a good and lonely job. Anyone out there want to help AG?
You're so right Rimo, AG needs some help. I seems as though everyone is frozen in place and only want's to watch. We can all see why somethings are happening, this is a perfect example of it; because no one is stepping up at the local level. It seems that everyone is working the political angle and expecting our politicians or the Tea Party to represent them. But as you heard on one of those videos, the politician was promoting the illegals and telling them he understood how hard it was and was in their corner.

I'd love to organize some street level activism, but who would show up? Ask yourself that. If anyone would actually step up and dedicate some volunteered time, and actually follow through with it, I'd work on a rally or protest. But it's the follow though that I wonder if it will happen. Just saying isn't preforming.

AG could sure use some help, any help. Hello!!!!
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Old 06-17-2011, 08:46 PM
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I don't know how many people picked this out of the video, but that one mexican saying we do not have the power, but they do, should take a look at the press coverage they got
Practically zilch

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/17/370...tatehouse.html

The way I see it is that the UFW is slipping in control and popularity, and this bill is a way for them to bolster their influence among their own obviously reluctant members.
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:34 PM
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I don't know how many people picked this out of the video, but that one mexican saying we do not have the power, but they do, should take a look at the press coverage they got
Practically zilch

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/17/370...tatehouse.html

The way I see it is that the UFW is slipping in control and popularity, and this bill is a way for them to bolster their influence among their own obviously reluctant members.
Two sentences on page 4. Wow. Is that an honorable mention?
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The action of the police is exactly why there needs to be a legal fund.

The opposition has sued everyone into submission, why not join the bandwagon and have civil rights enforced for everyone? The officer's invocation of PC 415 was clearly a stretch:

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415. Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment
in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of
not more than four hundred dollars ($400), or both such imprisonment
and fine:

(1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or
challenges another person in a public place to fight.

(2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another
person by loud and unreasonable noise.

(3) Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which
are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.
Of course, it would help if there are some numbers.

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This is some of what we had when we were in the Streets here in So Cal. We could not set a foot off the side walk and the Animals could yell any thing at us....and they did .Now will some one tell I cannot call some one an Animal?
A person can be an animal by virtue of behavior. I might refer to people who yelled obscenities and insults, spat, and beat on women exercising first amendment rights in So Cal racist assholes rather than animals.

However, if a person is referred to as an animal or an asshole by virtue of skin color rather than behavior, or judges all by the behavior of some, that's an entirely different thing. It can be done and is done all the time on both sides concerning illegal immigration, but it's clearly wrong and harms the cause of addressing illegal immigration on our side by distracting from the real issue - the issue becomes race rather than illegal immigration. And, groundless allegation of racism often works. Why give "them" ammunition to shoot you out of the saddle?

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I'd love to organize some street level activism, but who would show up? Ask yourself that. If anyone would actually step up and dedicate some volunteered time, and actually follow through with it, I'd work on a rally or protest. But it's the follow though that I wonder if it will happen. Just saying isn't preforming.
This is the absolute truth. I sometimes question my own presence here. I've been to a minimum of rallies under the old SOS, and if I do attend any I won't do it under my screen name or refer to it on the board as having attended - I don't want to be identified.

Other than the camera I donated and infrequent attendance, my "contribution" to SOS has been on the screen. I'm involved with other things in the political realm, as I view it Illegal immigration will require a political solution. Anyhow, that's how the opposition got to the point of hypocritical power they have attained; almost fifty years of relentless political activity.

I do believe in SOS, and I do greatly appreciate Davi and Jean.
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