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Old 05-14-2011, 09:24 PM
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It's hard to figure which is more perverse, the notion that Mexico is soaking the US, trolling for Mexicans that the US is babysitting to play in international competition representing Mexico, or those same Mexicans in the US representing the US in international competition.

And, come to think of it, exactly which of these Mexicans are showing that kind of performance to represent the US internationally anywhere, in any field?

The reality is that Mexicans in this country are pretty mediocre at best. Every time I see somebody who might be from South or Central America, I think "Oh crap, what are they screwing up now?"

"Made in China" means you pay less and maybe the quality will be less. "Made in Mexico" means you might as well throw away your hard earned money.

People say we need all this illegal labor. Need it? Maybe. Want it? No way.
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:56 PM
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People say we need all this illegal labor. Need it? Maybe. Want it? No way.
Geez Twoller; I think that's probably the most profound thing I've seen you write here yet
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:39 AM
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...And, come to think of it, exactly which of these Mexicans are showing that kind of performance to represent the US internationally anywhere, in any field?

The reality is that Mexicans in this country are pretty mediocre at best. Every time I see somebody who might be from South or Central America, I think "Oh crap, what are they screwing up now?"

"Made in Mexico" means you might as well throw away your hard earned money.

People say we need all this illegal labor. Need it? Maybe. Want it? No way.
The girl isn't Mexican, she's an American by more than one definition. And there is no way that she would be regarded by Mexican nationals as being Mexican, regardless of what the Mexican consulate is trying to pull off.

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As a top scholar and athlete, Elly hopes to attend college on a soccer scholarship and already has been approached by a school in Minnesota.

Even taking advanced placement calculus, U.S. history and English language and comprehension this year, she said she never missed practices.
She may be unusual with her success in studies, she will probably be indoctrinated with brown racism in her higher education, and she will certainly have a viewpoint concerning her parents, but you can't call the girl "mediocre" or a "screw up".

My point in the above post is that if there were a soccer team that accepted "white American or northern European only" rather than from Mexico or of Mexican origin, there would be a great hypocritical outcry concerning racism and the ACLU, MALDEF, the brown racial groups, and maybe even the US Department of Justice (suing California over an inmate's beard, suing a San Joaquin valley landlord over allegation of sexually harassing a tenant) would be in the middle of it.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:08 PM
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I might have an answer for the recruiting of kids who have grown up in America to play on Mexican teams.

I discovered a recently published book by Jorge G Castanada, who is the son of Mexican diplomats and, even though born and raised in Mexico City, had some of his youth growing up in other countries than Mexico. He was also a foreign minister for Mexico, and is a professor in America. The book is titled MANANA FOREVER? Mexico and the Mexicans.

The book is devoid of racial victimization charges, by the way - he seems to disclaim that premise as an obstical to progress in Mexico. As I read it, the book suggests that there needs to be a cultural change for Mexico to be able to be a part of and compete in the modern world.

Even though it is merely part of his book, Castaneda points out that while Mexicans excel at individual sports such as boxing (individual action), they do miserably in team sports such as soccer (collective action). As I understand it and simply put (and not in the full context of what I have read so far - it's hard to explain in a few words), Mexicans culturally tend not to be team players in much of life, with cooperation not going much farther beyond the individual himself to the individual family as a whole busy finding individual solutions for collective problems.

So, essentially the Mexican government is looking for kids with brown skins and Spanish last names raised in America who have acquired certain American cultural traits not much found in Mexico such as collective action (a component of team work) which make them superior soccer players.

Even if some I've read interviews about who can't communicate in Mexican Spanish and aren't considered to be Mexican by anyone in Mexico except the Mexican government.

To me, it seems to be a cynical propaganda ploy by the Mexican government appropriating American raised players to kick mainstream America in the collective nuts.
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