Protest at Laker Game Monday

[MowMyOwn]

Originally Posted by Kathy63

According to a report I heard, that is exactly what they are protesting.

That's why it's laughable. . . Alvin Gentry (the Suns coach) stayed mum on the issue too, it's not their position. This is the playoffs, the coaches know the focus is to be on the trophy, not making political statements.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

That's why it's laughable. . . Alvin Gentry (the Suns coach) stayed mum on the issue too, it's not their position. This is the playoffs, the coaches know the focus is to be on the trophy, not making political statements.

I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

[MowMyOwn]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

Jeanfromfillmore, you really nailed it that time. Field sports as they exist under our Roman occupation are a waste of time. Yes, that is why the gangs love professional teams and players and identify with them so much.

I'll go even further and say that professional sports are fake competition, just like big time wrestling. It's all sucked up in chasing records, boosting ratings and selling crap.

Have you ever seen Little League Baseball? It's an expensive kiddie parade where the first job is to dignify the conspicuous consumption of professional sports. The tiny little uniforms, the immaculate fields perfectly scaled down and all the technical adornments, it's all pretty weird. Somewhere the kids are supposed to be having fun, but the adults are the ones showing the most excitement.

[MowMyOwn]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Jeanfromfillmore, you really nailed it that time. Field sports as they exist under our Roman occupation are a waste of time. Yes, that is why the gangs love professional teams and players and identify with them so much.

It's in the mind of the beholder. . .

I'll go even further and say that professional sports are fake competition, just like big time wrestling. It's all sucked up in chasing records, boosting ratings and selling crap.

Darn those sports! All those fans, all that money, all those jobs, all those businesses all that revenue, it's just all so bad for our economy and American way.

Dude, you need to get some air. . .

[Don]

Years ago I read Frederick Douglass' autobiography and he recounted how the slave owners would give slaves time off over the Xmas holidays and provided ulimited liquor and tried to keep them involved in physical things such as running, wrestling and fighting each other. Douglass said it was considered a disgrace not to be drunk and slaves who made productive use of their leisure time were frowned upon by the master.

He also said, "A slave who was drunk gave no thought of liberty or escape to the north. It was the sober thoughtful slave who was a threat to the master's security."

This hit me like a thunderclap! It dawned on me that most people I know spend their holidays watching athetic events on TV while they sit on their couch drugging themselves with alocohol. I have never found a single redeeming thing about professional athletics. They only originated in the late 1800's and have not been much of a blessing for our civilization.

[MowMyOwn]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

Your post in bold is what I was originally saying (about it being "laughable"), so we agree on that point. These protesters will do more harm and embarrassment to their own "movement".
As far as "gangs identifying", sports rivalry has been around forever, like politics 'rivalry'. But saying "I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. is just nutty to me, and it won't happen.
These gangs hardly raise a blip on the radar of national and world sports.

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

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As far as "gangs identifying", sports rivalry has been around forever, like politics 'rivalry'. But saying "I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. is just nutty to me, and it won't happen.
These gangs hardly raise a blip on the radar of national and world sports.

Sports rivalry has always been an infection on any society it crops up in. You couldn't possibly be paying attention and miss the endless riots and violence that accompany soccer games, for example, and how that violence reflects struggles going on both on the street and politically. Some gangs actually start as groups of sports fans.

[MowMyOwn]

Originally Posted by Twoller

Sports rivalry has always been an infection on any society it crops up in. You couldn't possibly be paying attention and miss the endless riots and violence that accompany soccer games, for example, and how that violence reflects struggles going on both on the street and politically. Some gangs actually start as groups of sports fans.

I'm sorry you're this shallow and only see the [very slight] dark side of sports.

The other side of rivalry is comradery.