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Old 11-23-2009, 07:52 AM
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Being the world's most desired immigration destination is one of our nation's strengths. As an example, what fueled much of the PC and dot.com boom(s) was our ability to draw the best engineers from India to Seattle and the Silicon Valley. Our capitalist system that allows for accumulation of wealth, our standard of living and reputation for adherence to civil liberties, allows us to "raid" other countries of their best and brightest. Contributions from people who graduated from engineering colleges with academic standards that make MIT and Cal Tech look like JC's in comparison, built businesses and created wealth that resulted in employment and money for thousands of U.S. citizens.

The problem is not that we are accepting immigrants. The problem is that we are largely accepting the wrong immigrants. We need more poorly educated peasants with a penchant for cranking out babies and screaming about their victimization by "racists" like Michael Jackson and Karen Carpenter needed Jenny Craig.
It is an absurd myth that immigration had anything whatsoever to do with any of the high tech institutions and industries in any of the industrialized countries. All you have to do is look at the level of high tech industries that exist in the countries that these high tech immigrants come from. Nothing that any of these so-called contributors have done in the high tech industries came out of the countries they came from. And if they really have made any contributions, then why haven't they made similar contributions in their countries of origin. They can't claim any accomplishments performed outside of this country. They are the high tech equivilant of leaf blower monkeys who come here legally, take up space, puke up babies and blow crap all over the place.

There is no contribution that any immigrant can claim that was made as a result of some license that a US citizen granted to these people to get something done. And meanwhile, these same US citizens crap all over their fellow citizens and steal their creative works to give to these same parasites they ship in from places like India and other countries too.

We didn't need them, we don't need them and we need to quit repeating the fairy tale that they have done anything that couldn't have been done -- and should have been done -- by people already here.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:15 AM
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It is an absurd myth that immigration had anything whatsoever to do with any of the high tech institutions and industries in any of the industrialized countries. All you have to do is look at the level of high tech industries that exist in the countries that these high tech immigrants come from. Nothing that any of these so-called contributors have done in the high tech industries came out of the countries they came from. And if they really have made any contributions, then why haven't they made similar contributions in their countries of origin. They can't claim any accomplishments performed outside of this country. They are the high tech equivilant of leaf blower monkeys who come here legally, take up space, puke up babies and blow crap all over the place.

There is no contribution that any immigrant can claim that was made as a result of some license that a US citizen granted to these people to get something done. And meanwhile, these same US citizens crap all over their fellow citizens and steal their creative works to give to these same parasites they ship in from places like India and other countries too.

We didn't need them, we don't need them and we need to quit repeating the fairy tale that they have done anything that couldn't have been done -- and should have been done -- by people already here.
This is one of the negative issues that accompanies our current immigration woes. There are many good immigrants from countries like India, but the US imports so many period, that they become overshadowed and infected by the distaste that is quite obviously growing within the American citizen and American worker class. I think we would not be exhibiting the level of hostility towards people from other countries had we not been led down this path by current levels of immigration and certainly illegal immigration. It is the system that is causing the backlash, and not the individuals who oppose it. But we need to struggle to keep the right villains in the crosshairs of our fight, because as we can see, the architects of the scheme have been somewhat successful at directing our anger at other countries and their emigres
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:04 AM
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This is one of the negative issues that accompanies our current immigration woes. There are many good immigrants from countries like India, but the US imports so many period, that they become overshadowed and infected by the distaste that is quite obviously growing within the American citizen and American worker class. I think we would not be exhibiting the level of hostility towards people from other countries had we not been led down this path by current levels of immigration and certainly illegal immigration. It is the system that is causing the backlash, and not the individuals who oppose it. But we need to struggle to keep the right villains in the crosshairs of our fight, because as we can see, the architects of the scheme have been somewhat successful at directing our anger at other countries and their emigres
I think you are missing my point about the "high tech" immigrants. Part of the corruption of our immigration system are the so-called "good" legal immigrants that are said to have been necessary for development in the high tech industries. There are no such "good" immigrants. They have merely taken up space and squatted on the opportunities of people who were already here before they got here. And, by the way, how did they get here? They didn't get here because of any achievements. What were they doing here? What kind of program got them here at all?

We didn't need them. We don't need them and as a basic issue confronting the roots of illegal immigration, we need to topple the myth of the contributions of "high tech immigrants". They displaced productive US citizens in the economy as surely as any "poorly educated peasants" emptying accross the borders illegally.
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