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Old 04-01-2011, 12:02 PM
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Why, Oh why must we go this way? This reminded me that I did not send the donation for the lettering. As I said before, it will not be very much but remember my SS check may not come on 5-1 because the GOP wants the government to shut down unless they get 'their' way.
Too bad for old people.
Some of this is what happened to SOS.org.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:15 PM
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Some of this is what happened to SOS.org.
I think it's different. There was a lot more mistrust because there was a lot more censorship, control and hidden subterfuge. I'll give him one thing. I commend him for finally stating his goal.
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:41 PM
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Sam finally came out and showed his true colors. Taking over SOS was and has been his goal from day one, and some of us knew it. He made it impossible to work with him and constantly complained over things that were so insignificant, one had to question his motives. He did a great deal of damage within weeks of the new SOS getting started. This was not revealed on the board, and keep between those that were involved and on the receiving end of his agenda.

Sam is not privy to the working of SOS anymore and has not been for about one year. He has no idea what we are doing and thus cannot disrupt us except to make various attacks at our progress.

Sam has in the past associated himself with other organization, just to be rejected. He recently has tried to go off on his own with an internet forum board which he closed down, and now has a blog that he places on the SOS forum to generate some activity. But obviously he and his blog are not getting the attention he desires and he feels it is time to make a move at obtaining the SOS forum, which was his goal from day one.

Sam you may think of yourself as having the ability to dodge a question with just a reply but not an answer. But it is obvious to others what your intent has been for a long time. You've used your "lawyer card" as a carrot many times, but have seldom followed through with anything. My advice is to leave as gracefully as you can because there is a history that follows you and some have long memories.

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Old 04-01-2011, 02:05 PM
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Jean, that's simply brilliant. You've figured things out so throughly and gleaned each of my ulterior motives. Now I understand why you can't possibly be bothered to orchestrate anything. Why it must have taken you every waking hour to piece all that together.

Actually, I'm going to have to apologize to, at least you, for having pointed out the largely self-evident in this thread. It was never my intention to post anything that might distract you from being the first person to cut and paste 3000 entries on the board.

I'm confident that if you continue with the same dogged determination you've had for over a year, you'll reach your ultimate goal in no time. Godspeed to you.
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Old 04-01-2011, 02:38 PM
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Is this what could be loosely termed a hostile take over attempt?

Angry words, brow beating, insults, and an offer to buy out just to shut it down but use it for unspecified internet traffic?

To what personal purpose? It doesn't seem to be about getting a bargain.

Just a little more cut and paste...

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Old 04-01-2011, 03:24 PM
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Everyone has an opinion, bad, good, or indifferent about others here. I'm still lobbying for people to get active out there, and here. I don't want to run anyone off, or make it seem inhospitable. I don't have a problem telling someone what I think of them, or their actions, and still wanting them to be active, or even putting up with their opinions of me afterwards.
I want to keep fighting back. I'll still support those who do the same, even if I disagree strongly with them on anything or everything else.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:16 AM
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I have no idea what inspired this thread in the first place. Quite obviously if it were a simple business proposition it would have served the proposer better to have done so in a letter or phone call. So I don't believe that was the primary motive.
Neither do I see any possible value coming out of someone within the immigration law enforcement support community trying to publicly humiliate the effort that some of us have given towards this organization. We may not be entirely effective at present, but what possible good comes from denouncing that which we are able to do? Would our community be served better by silencing one more open house that is still willing to speak out and continue activism in whatever form it can, with whatever resources it can muster?
I'll go one step beyond that and ask why is it more important to point out the perceived weaknesses of this entity, than the will, dedication, and recent effort of those still willing to apply themselves here?
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