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Old 03-21-2011, 06:04 AM
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Default Outside perspective.

This is a California thing, and I'm not one. But maybe I can offer some outside perspective from someone who does not have a dog in this fight without sounding like a referee.

Infighting has definitely split up several good groups in my region. Going way back, years, to Farmingville, Long Island. The group leader invited Chris Simcox to speak. About 1/2 were in favor and 1/2 had a thing about Simcox and objected so strenuously that they "walked" splitting the group. It was downhill from there and not long after that the whole organization folded and closed their website.

I met Simcox later at another group meeting in New Jersey and I had an uneasy feeling. Although he wasn't implicated two New Jersey groups came to loggerheads and relations cooled to the frigid. In that case a new group, in a different town, was supposed to be a satellite , subordinate, to the main group. Things fell apart when the new group began soliciting donations for themselves. The groups split.

Same thing in Connecticut. A group of activists in Darien, in the South, organized and coupled with a group up North in Danbury. The Darien leader performed surveillance of all McDonald's restaurants in Connecticut then printed his report. The Northern group didn't like some aspects and decided to split, which they did. Relations and cooperation cooled to the point on non-cooperation and communication.

Of course everyone knows the history of the Simcox Minuteman breakup and demise.

On the matter of police and politician attitudes, we here have the Nations champion scofflaw, sanctuary city Mayor. I would like to say that generally police and Mayoral attitudes nationwide follow party lines, Democrats liberal, Republicans conservative. However, this one is variously a Democrat, then a Republican then an Independent, depending on which window of opportunity is open and which path offers the least resistance.

Rodney King said: "Can't we all just get along" ? And the answer is no - not on your life. It just isn't the nature of the beast. It's one of Murphy's Laws. If they can find something to argue about and be disagreeable - they will.

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Old 03-21-2011, 06:41 AM
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Infighting has definitely split up several good groups in my region. Going way back, years, to Farmingville, Long Island. The group leader invited Chris Simcox to speak. About 1/2 were in favor and 1/2 had a thing about Simcox and objected so strenuously that they "walked" splitting the group. It was downhill from there and not long after that the whole organization folded and closed their website....

....Rodney King said: "Can't we all just get along" ? And the answer is no - not on your life. It just isn't the nature of the beast. It's one of Murphy's Laws. If they can find something to argue about and be disagreeable - they will.
And my point is, if at first you don't get along, don't let that get in the way of your work ethic. Do it alone; find other people; but do it
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:14 AM
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And my point is, if at first you don't get along, don't let that get in the way of your work ethic. Do it alone; find other people; but do it
Absolutely, positively agree. Spot on. My philosophy precisely.

Over the years many of the groups have tried to recruit and enlist me as an ally and colleague and I have always side stepped.

Eventually I came to the conclusion that as a lone wolf my best option was to be an Infragard member. As such I have a vast legitimacy and partners with resources.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:14 PM
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Jim Gilchrist said that he would be a guest on SOS RADIO! this week

We talked about some sort of format that will include a little of the past, a little of present, and a little of the future of MMP. We don't want to get bogged down with subjects that have already been wrung out in the courts; just a recap of the history with a few comments and questions. We're still working on it. It'll be tasteful as we've done in the past.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:53 PM
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I am delighted that Jim Gilchrist will be on SOS Radio. I am looking forward to his appearance.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:54 PM
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Jim Gilchrist said that he would be a guest on SOS RADIO! this week

We talked about some sort of format that will include a little of the past, a little of present, and a little of the future of MMP. We don't want to get bogged down with subjects that have already been wrung out in the courts; just a recap of the history with a few comments and questions. We're still working on it. It'll be tasteful as we've done in the past.
Sounds great AG!
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