The lunatic asylum ?

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore

Another item that no one has mentioned is that with the "new" free medical comes the ability by the Government to grab onto a citizens estate; those receiving free medical and once the person dies (under the age of 65 or receiving any gov. free subsidy along with medicade) the cost paid by the government will be taken out of the persons estate; this includes land, cars and anything of value. The only way out of such a situation is to either sell everything or give it to someone in advance of getting ill.

But now. no one is being told that Obamacare could take your estate.

And eventually the government will own everything is what I'm thinking.

[wetibbe]

This website is unique in that everyone seems to get along with an absence of the usual haranguing, confrontations, acrimony and fisticuffs. So I'll attenuate bashing Obama as apparently desired. Personally I don't like it either.

As to introducing racism, I will say that I think there is actually an element of racism in Obama care. Normally I am skeptical of conspiracy theories but in this instance there is a super abundance of theories about Black Liberation Theology. But since my colleagues don't want to pursue it I will drop it here in deference.
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Side board:

Over the Christmas holidays I was with my grandsons and granddaughters. Since I am an advanced senior citizen they are up in their 20's and 30's, with families/children. Deplorably ALL of them have been adversely affected by Obama care - very adversely and costly. Not a single one nor any other family or friends have been favorably benefitted. All are suffering horrendous cost increases

* One Grandson works for a subsidiary of Boeing in space and communications technology including military. His health insurance was cancelled and supplemented. It resulted in significantly incased premiums, and modified co - pay and deductibles which he says it nothing like before and much more costly.

* One granddaughter works for a major law firm in West Palm Beach, Florida. Her boss told her he was waiting to see. But they may cancel health coverage and give employees a compensatory sum to shop around independently for insurance. In other words cut them loose and leave them on their own.

Two grandsons are #1 in college so his Dad takes care of it. And #2 is in serious financial straits at 25 years of age and struggling. He cannot afford insurance.

MY son work as a mortgage broker in one of the oldest banks in America. They went independent and self insured.

I'm a senior on Medicare and HMO. Living on social security My premiums have gone up from 2012 to 2014 83%. My co-pay and deductibles have risen 35% TO 50%.

No-one has escaped the Obamacare debacle.

If you watch the news you will see that they are virtually, including the liberals, down on Obamacare and blasting it as a catastrophe.

[Rim05]

Yes, I would like to get back on topic, however, no matter the subject it seems to always steer to Obama bashing. NO MATTER THE SUBJECT. I have been subject to insults (as politicians say) by my good friend who is on IGNORE. Some one needs to stop the abuse of posters by what I called Bullies.
No one has the 'right' to insult other posters.
She is still, ON PERMANT IGNORE.

[wetibbe]

As a prelude I am NOT a Tea Party member. I am not a joiner at all:"

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He's getting rid of those loyal to America and her Constitution, replacing them with those loyal only unto him, the king.

Military personnel who speak out are being silenced, their promotions denied.

He cut a stunning $1.3 trillion from the Pentagon budget—money that helps protect our soldiers—gives them firearms and weapons, the ability to carry out their missions safely.

Retired Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely and other senior ranking military officials report that Obama is continuing on a path to degrade and demoralize the military.

It's all part of his radical second term plan to weaken us, make us vulnerable to attack.

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[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

I'm just not getting it.

If Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger had even thought about any part of the incredibly unethical, unconstitutional, and further illegal shenanigans perpetrated in and about the Obama administration there would have been national upheaval on a dramatic scale.

However, all the lying, scandals, stalling, collective executive branch amnesia defying congressional investigations and sheer insolent chutzpa heaped on the American people by the Obama administration has resulted in...

...near silence.

I just cannot wrap my head around all this.

Because if you do mention it, well you might offend someone. Be called a bully or one of the many other talking points provided by this administration.

This thread started out discussing the insane dishonest attack on our healthcare system. There is one main person in the forefront responsible for all this crap and that is Obama!!! If telling the truth about that is accepted as unacceptable and nothing is said or done, then we as citizens are just as responsible. The media certainly has lost almost all credibility.

[wetibbe]

Too many German citizens zipped it up and didn't oppose Adolph Hitler.

Your courage and outspokenness is refreshing.

Speaking for myself, Over many years I was banned from just about every website for arguing. They are certainly not the province of freedom of expression.

Over the years I have bided my time and re=registered successfully under different ID and password and/or different computers with other IP addresses. However, I have never posted on any of them again. I just proved my point and didn't want to associate with such.

[wetibbe]

This mornings Fox News:

Social security recipients received a 1.3% cost of living increase over years while food stamp recipients received 30% increase.

Military:

These has been some clarification.

Under the present proposals for 2014 an enlisted man will lose $54,000 over lifetime in pension and an officer $124,000 over life in pension cut backs.
I still have not satisfactorily obtained desired information to draw any conclusions about this.

*Note: Previously stated, not Fox news, Congress voted themselves a 4.5% pay increase. Thus the fat cats will belly up to the bar first and foremost while you and I can suck wind.

Here are links to Social Security opportunities and military pay.

#1. I do not pursue the SS offerings at all as I am suspicious.

http://t.hp13.us.msn.com/?pc=HPDTDFJS&ocid=HPCDHP

#2. I'll look at military salary but wait for more info.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ranks/army_ranks.asp

[wetibbe]

Yesterday, and before, I posted messages on websites that had banned me before. They offered welcome and thanks with open arms !!!

One said: We are a little bit slow now so don't be a stranger.

It seems that all of these websites have suffered diminished interest and activity.

It's a sign of the times. Dedicated Patriots are seemingly losing steam and enthusiasm, maybe burn out
from so many frustrating year's of losing steadily to liberals, democrats, socialists, anarchists, scofflaws.

Too bad, so sad ----------------Not me !

I'm up and running rattling chains.

Just remember: " (He who speaks not is not heard. )".

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by wetibbe

Yesterday, and before, I posted messages on websites that had banned me before. They offered welcome and thanks with open arms !!!

One said: We are a little bit slow now so don't be a stranger.

It seems that all of these websites have suffered diminished interest and activity.

It's a sign of the times. Dedicated Patriots are seemingly losing steam and enthusiasm, maybe burn out
from so many frustrating year's of losing steadily to liberals, democrats, socialists, anarchists, scofflaws.

Too bad, so sad ----------------Not me !

I'm up and running rattling chains.

Just remember: " (He who speaks not is not heard. )".

Which ones welcomed you back? How many of us are actually still left

[Rim05]

Which ones welcomed you back? How many of us are actually still left


Good questions. I will say that this is not an illegal info forum any more. It is pure political now.