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Old 02-26-2010, 07:18 PM
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Default Hiring Illegal Immigrants May Lead to Jail in Utah

Hiring Illegal Immigrants May Lead to Jail in Utah
Failing to check immigration status of employees in Utah could soon result in criminal charges
By BROCK VERGAKIS Associated Press Writer
SALT LAKE CITY February 26, 2010 (AP)
Employers in Utah could be among the first in the country to face criminal charges for failing to verify their workers' immigration status, under a bill passed Friday by a legislative committee that now moves to the full Senate.
Several states require businesses to use the federal E-Verify program, but generally only under threat of financial penalties.
In Mississippi, employers who hire illegal immigrants can lose their business license, but illegal immigrants found working there are eligible for a one-year prison sentence.
Under the Utah bill, employers who fail to comply could face a class B misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.
Bill supporters said enacting the measure would stop identity theft and encourage illegal immigrants to leave Utah.
"It's not a total panacea, but it almost is," said Senate Bill 251's sponsor, Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan.
About 184,000 of the nation's 7 million to 8 million employers use E-Verify, a Web based system that checks a worker's information against Department of Homeland Security and Social Security databases to determine U.S. employment eligibility.
The program is free to employers and some states including Utah already require public employers and contractors to use the system.
But E-Verify has some widely reported flaws.
Illinois lawmakers have already moved to bar employers from using the system, saying its accuracy remains in question. The online tool wrongly clears illegal workers about 54 percent of the time, according to Westat, a research company that evaluated the system for the Homeland Security Department.
Opponents of the Utah bill said including criminal penalties could clash with federal law and place an undue burden on businesses.
A federal judge in Oklahoma has already blocked portions of an immigration law there after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce challenged it, saying the E-Verify program is unreliable and unfairly imposes penalties on employers.
Utah lawmakers have long prided themselves on creating a business-friendly environment in the state, and even those who supported the measure in a legislative hearing Friday said they're still not sure they'll vote for it on the Senate floor.
Several business groups testified against it.
"I think we need to take a baby step toward penalties on employers," said Sen. Wayne Niederhauser, a Sandy Republican who favors mandating E-Verify's use. "It's just egregious at this point."

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Old 02-26-2010, 09:08 PM
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Employers are a large part of the draw. Employers need to be punished for hiring illegal aliens.

I understand that E- Verify is about 97% accurate, and there is a month or so to correct any false calls.

An experiment for the: Try not to pay your taxes for a year or so - You'll come home one afternoon all fat, dumb and happy, then several agents will jump out of the bushes, throw you to the ground, cuff you, and haul you off. And it would be highly unusual that they haul off the neighbor rather than the target.

The claim is bullshit, and there needs to be a way found to bring the chamber of commerce to heel.
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Now I like this plan! This would pretty much an end to the illegal scumbags in my area, and the corrupt jerks that hire them.
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Employers are a large part of the draw. Employers need to be punished for hiring illegal aliens.

I understand that E- Verify is about 97% accurate, and there is a month or so to correct any false calls.

An experiment for the: Try not to pay your taxes for a year or so - You'll come home one afternoon all fat, dumb and happy, then several agents will jump out of the bushes, throw you to the ground, cuff you, and haul you off. And it would be highly unusual that they haul off the neighbor rather than the target.

The claim is bullshit, and there needs to be a way found to bring the chamber of commerce to heel.
It wasn't clear in my above post, this quote is what I was calling BS on:

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A federal judge in Oklahoma has already blocked portions of an immigration law there after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce challenged it, saying the E-Verify program is unreliable and unfairly imposes penalties on employers.
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