500 Support KKK Anti-Immigrant Rally in GA

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by MowMyOwn

I can't believe this thread is even allowed in here.
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We're not afraid of the KKK. It's not like we're tempted by mere discussion

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

You would be banned from this site for insulting any race except white people.
I have a dream. I have a dream that one day white people will be equal to and entitled to the same respect as other races and it will not longer be open season to insult white people.

I don't believe anyone has been banned from this site, save for a few posters placing porno and pharmaceutical ads.
Your dream has a better chance of becoming reality if you drop the racial specificity, and lobby for the same protections and respect for everyone.

[Don]

Originally Posted by Ayatollahgondola

I think that your extrapolation is a bit unfounded and suspect

Maybe so. Here's what the local paper said:

"He [Mayor Jacobs] said City Hall received more than 1,000 calls from as far as California asking for information about the rally. “Some wanted to be part of it,” he said.

Gary Moore, chairman of the Appling County NAACP, said he thought more local Klan supporters would have attended, except it would damage their position in their communities.

“You’ve got a lot of closet people — businesspeople, doctors, lawyers, judges — that aren’t going to jeopardize their livelihoods,” he said."


Straight from the horse's mouth: If white people exercise their free speech rights, the NAACP will go after their "livelihoods." Can you imagine the outcry if whites threatened to "jeopardize" the "livelihoods" of Blacks and Mexicans for exercising 1st Amendment rights? In the Racial Caste System of modern America, whites are on the bottom and blacks and Mexicans do not hesitate to brag about their privileged, protected status as the nation's most favored races who have veto power over lowly, "inbred, rednecked" whites.

In making my estimate, which is admittedly speculative, I relied in part on the statements of the chairman of the NAACP, who refers to "closet" racists in business, the professions and even the judiciary .According to the chairman of the NAACP, the area is loaded with "closet" white racists who keep their mouths shut because they know what's good for them.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

.According to the chairman of the NAACP, the area is loaded with "closet" white racists who keep their mouths shut because they know what's good for them.

Sounds more like they're not too proud of what they are doing. I'd say this is an indication that those who support the KKK, are doing so for personal reasons as opposed to doing it for their country. I'm certainly not going to deny the existance of racists, or that they want a voice of some sort in the immigration debate. They are supposedly Americans, so they are entitled to representation, however this is not the venue to do it. Contact their reps, hold whatever rallies/events they want. But I hope you understand that we cannot become a conveyance instrument for it. It's against our grain, our charter, and as you can tell, not at all a popular sentiment among this crowd. A little discussion is not forbidden, but please try and respect our wishes as to the platform here. I don't know that you're a bad person or anything, and I would like to convince you that a racially themed manner is not a winning strategy in the immigration arena, as it drives good people away from action. I am not entirely white, and I have intermarried, so why would this be a good thing for me? Similar to Pocho, I don't want to see the mob mentality jump started anytime soon, because I'll have to spend more time watching over my wife and kids, as well as defend myself more often. Further, I have to fend off allegations of racial motives during my activism more often because that gets more publicity than the real issues that are at the root of illegal immigration and escalating immigration numbers. The racial issues in the immigration debate are a smokescreen, and I don't think we need more help keeping that smoke in our faces

[Twoller]

I think it is foolish to imagine the KKK is capable of representing anything or anybody. It is a feeble cult with no foundation or credibility other than a history of violence. Let us imagine that it is a worthwhile to stand up for the interests of "white people", even so, the KKK is not a respectable place to do it.

It should be said that representing oneself as "white" and having some political interest in being so is entirely respectable and not racist either. But standing for something like white superiority over other races is, of course, racist and not to be tolerated. And that is what the KKK represents, white superiority.

I think we should be able to all agree that every US citizen is entitled to equal rights under the law irregardless of race and that no one race should be subject to another. But the KKK does not represent this point of view.

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Don

Maybe so. Here's what the local paper said:

"He [Mayor Jacobs] said City Hall received more than 1,000 calls from as far as California asking for information about the rally. “Some wanted to be part of it,” he said.

Gary Moore, chairman of the Appling County NAACP, said he thought more local Klan supporters would have attended, except it would damage their position in their communities.

“You’ve got a lot of closet people — businesspeople, doctors, lawyers, judges — that aren’t going to jeopardize their livelihoods,” he said."


Straight from the horse's mouth: If white people exercise their free speech rights, the NAACP will go after their "livelihoods." Can you imagine the outcry if whites threatened to "jeopardize" the "livelihoods" of Blacks and Mexicans for exercising 1st Amendment rights? In the Racial Caste System of modern America, whites are on the bottom and blacks and Mexicans do not hesitate to brag about their privileged, protected status as the nation's most favored races who have veto power over lowly, "inbred, rednecked" whites.

In making my estimate, which is admittedly speculative, I relied in part on the statements of the chairman of the NAACP, who refers to "closet" racists in business, the professions and even the judiciary .According to the chairman of the NAACP, the area is loaded with "closet" white racists who keep their mouths shut because they know what's good for them.

To far too many individuals to be white IS to be a racist and nothing more may be said. No use denying it either. Go to the local bookstore or library there are volume written about inborn white racisim that nothing can overcome.

Whites are either outright racists or closet racists. There are no white non-racists. That's why I'm suprised that the turnout wasn't larger than it was.

[usa today]

Just FYI

The stormfront white nationalist forums have close to 150,000 active users
(no I'm not a member)

Just food for thought

[Don]

Originally Posted by Twoller

I think we should be able to all agree that every US citizen is entitled to equal rights under the law irregardless of race and that no one race should be subject to another. But the KKK does not represent this point of view.

If you believe in equality for all races then you must really be furious that the local head of the NAACP can threaten white people with destruction of their livelihoods for openly exercising free speech rights that are routinely exercised by Blacks and Hispanics, in advancing Black and Hispanic racial interests.

I'm certainly glad you believe that no race should be subject to another and that whites should not be subject to Black veto power in the exercise of their free speech rights.

[usa today]

"I think we should be able to all agree that every US citizen is entitled to equal rights under the law irregardless of race and that no one race should be subject to another. But the KKK does not represent this point of view."

Great concept

Want me to list about a thousand ways in which WE ARE NOT EQUAL?

there are places in Las Vegas you cannot get a job UNLESS YOU SPEAK SPANISH , In fact there are places here in Vegas you can't get a job unless your hispanic.

If your here illegally with the blessings of our govt you can , drive without a license or insurance , As a tax paying citizen I can't get away with that , if I don't pay my insurance I get reported to the dmv and its curtains for my license , along with a huge fine

Last time I was in an ER I had to present 2 forms of Id , and it WAS A WORK RELATED INJURY , and yet the person infront of me got in 4 hours before me , filled out no paperwork and presented NO id , Did I mention he was hispanic and didn't speak English? Meanwhile I sat there for 5 hours with a gaping cut in my thumb.

Want to know how many able bodied young blacks I see with mega food stamp cards ? ( I work in a grocery store)?
How many hispanics towing a dozen anchors with wic up the butt ?

How come these illegals get to live 10 to a single family home or apt? the rest of us would be dinged with occupancy laws.

How is any of this fair or equal?

I could go on and on , but you get the message

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Don

If you believe in equality for all races then you must really be furious that the local head of the NAACP can threaten white people with destruction of their livelihoods for openly exercising free speech rights that are routinely exercised by Blacks and Hispanics, in advancing Black and Hispanic racial interests.

I'm certainly glad you believe that no race should be subject to another and that whites should not be subject to Black veto power in the exercise of their free speech rights.

Well, twice now you accuse the NAACP of threatening people, but you have not cited anything like evidence that this is occuring. I don't think you even really believe that the NAACP actually threatened anyone, you are just posing the NAACP as threatening those who attended the Klan artificially -- and I think I am being generous when I say "artificially".

Originally Posted by Don

... Here's what the local paper said:

"He [Mayor Jacobs] said City Hall received more than 1,000 calls from as far as California asking for information about the rally. “Some wanted to be part of it,” he said.

Gary Moore, chairman of the Appling County NAACP, said he thought more local Klan supporters would have attended, except it would damage their position in their communities.

“You’ve got a lot of closet people — businesspeople, doctors, lawyers, judges — that aren’t going to jeopardize their livelihoods,” he said."


Straight from the horse's mouth: If white people exercise their free speech rights, the NAACP will go after their "livelihoods." Can you imagine the outcry if whites threatened to "jeopardize" the "livelihoods" of Blacks and Mexicans for exercising 1st Amendment rights? In the Racial Caste System of modern America, whites are on the bottom and blacks and Mexicans do not hesitate to brag about their privileged, protected status as the nation's most favored races who have veto power over lowly, "inbred, rednecked" whites.

In making my estimate, which is admittedly speculative, I relied in part on the statements of the chairman of the NAACP, who refers to "closet" racists in business, the professions and even the judiciary .According to the chairman of the NAACP, the area is loaded with "closet" white racists who keep their mouths shut because they know what's good for them.

You are completely misquoting Gary Moore, who was suggesting fear of embarrassment, not violence.

The idea that the NAACP might be capable of threatening attendees of a Klan meeting is pretty weak. More like the other way around isn't it? Especially with the record of the KKK. But if we were to reflect on your accusation, we might imagine that it was actually inciting attendees to a similar artificial defensive pose, falsely assuming that the NAACP might actually weild some kind of aggression against them. It might even suggest something preemptive against the NAACP as a "defensive" measure. But I won't presume to actually make such an accusation on a few posts here, even though such posturing is not uncommon among terrorists and their sympathizers.