Al-Jazeera’s Agenda in Libya and its American Apologists

[wetibbe]

The cause of all of this revolt is complex and multifaceted. And it's more than I want to plunge into at this time as it is very time consuming to assemble. However, from various sources:

* The action apparently started in Tunisia where the dictator ruled with an iron fist for 23 years. Wiki-leaks was actually partially to blame for getting the ball rolling. Then the kicker was the suicide of a young man who set himself on fire in protest, in a town where student riots were taking place. I have a recollection that he was dissatisfied with the government over some beef he had dealing with his business.

* Then it spread to Egypt. Just in the past day or so there is now surfacing the revelation that the Muslim Brotherhood was indeed in clandestine collaboration with some of Mubarak's military.

* Then the revelations that Qaddafi was personally involved in the flight 103 disaster over Lockerbie, along with grumbling about the bombers release, coupled with the revolt next door in Tunisia, seems to have gotten the snowball rolling.

* From there the discontent seems to have spread to Yemen, then Bahrain and now it is happening in Syria, as these apparently younger Arabs are realizing that they can get a taste of freedom and democracy by taking to the streets.

* Somewhere along the way, I would surmise, there was some "black ops" action but we don't want to talk about that.


Dating back to colonial times we can recall our own early history. Initially Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, escaping from persecution back home, and looking for religious freedom, land and opportunity that wasn't available in the old country. In 1624 the Dutch landed in the Hudson River area and purchased Manhattan from the Indians. They thrived for about 70 years until the British King invaded and took over setting up a British colony. In 1776 the American revolutionary's had had enough. Thus ensued independence.

These Arab dictators, and others such as Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, Cuba's Fidel Castor, Panama's Manuel Noriega, North Korea's Kim Jong Il, Idi Amin, Papa Doc Duvalier, Saddam Hussein and others seize power by force and revolution. Then stay in power for decades by ruthless means while plundering the nations assets and pocketing billions and billions. The people just get fed up. The years roll by, the dictators get older and more and more young people, new generations, populate. They want something different. Surely the "success" in Iraq is opening some eyes too even in Iran next door. The world is changing.

Sadly, and all too often, the new revolutionarys that come in and take over turn out to be Trojan Horses as bad, or worse, than the old, corrupt regime that was tossed out. The USA seems to have a history of backing the wrong party - "sometimes" !!!

[Twoller]

The rioting in the Arab countries in the Middle East is the work of the Muslim Brotherhood and their allies. The dictatorships in Egypt, Syria and the rest are no longer useful to Islam. High tech communication and the popular use of computers in general have made these dictatorships obsolete for Islam.

Notice the lack of problems in Saudi Arabia where the dictatorship is the most brutal and there is the least political freedom or representation. Saudi Arabia hosts Mecca, the site most holy to all of Islam. When Muslims pray, they pray facing Mecca, no matter where they are on the planet.

Al Qaeda is largely run by Saudis, like OBL himself. That is where the money comes from. In advancing the cause of Islam in the ME, overthrowing the old order in Saudi Arabia will come last.

In Iraq, of course, we did the job for them, just as we are in Lybia. The no-fly zone and the participation of NATO is to generate momentum for the supervised surrender of Israel after the international recognition of some kind of Palestinian state.

[ilbegone]

The Arab league pushed for western involvement, now criticizes western involvement.

Qatar and the United Arab Emirates have planes involved in the no fly zone.

Saudi Arabia is a religious police state. The Saud family plays a balancing act between Wahhabism they let on the loose in Saudi Arabia decades ago and the mercenary fact that there is money to be made selling oil to the US. They keep a tight grip on the populace, but that doesn't mean there won't be a fundamentalist uprising in Saudi Arabia.

[Rim05]

Sadly, and all too often, the new revolutionarys that come in and take over turn out to be Trojan Horses as bad, or worse, than the old, corrupt regime that was tossed out. The USA seems to have a history of backing the wrong party - "sometimes" !!!

Those are the same things I have been thinking. I would say the US backs the wrong party most of the time....I think this is one of the wrong times.

The Mid East is in the prosess of being taken over by someone for someone. When it is finished I think the French and all others who wanted a no fly zone will be sorry. I don't think Obama will be able to get out, too much involvement at this point.

I wonder what would happen if all the anti American forces decided to turn on our government, just what would our government do? Fight as Kadaffy is doing or just give up so you do not hurt civilians?