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I don't know if it would be appropriate to mention the names here, but for those seeking longer threads on the same issues we discuss on this forum, there are blogs which usually consist of a column by a well-known commentator at the beginning which is followed by comments from readers. Depending on the writer and the nature of the column, there can be up to several hundred comments and replies within just a few hours. So it's not like people are becoming apathetic in general.
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OPEN BORDERS AND MASS AMNESTY Ich Bin Ein Arizonan! "I entirely reject the concept, however, of "anchor babies." If parents are found to be here illegally, then the whole family, children as well, should be sent back to the parents' country of origin." Last edited by LAPhil; 08-15-2010 at 07:32 AM. |
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In contrast, groups like SOS, NMI, ALIPAC, Minutemen, etc, are always soliciting for action of some type, and so there has always been an underlying current of involvement. |
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Will a revolution come? Well we have a government that is openly on the side of an invading army so I would argue that the revolution already took place and our country was snatched away from us while most were not paying attention. The current campaign to put the final nail in the coffin of American sovereignty by crushing American patriotic resistance is perceived as a kind of mopping up operation. How it will end is anyone's guess. Thank God popular American sentiment has finally come to our side. Better late than never. |
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The word "army" suggests top down single organization, and that's a wrong notion. Basically it's a mob with all sorts of motivations and personal agendas, many very similar and some not, which is being used by others for all sorts of political and other goals, or some sort of gain.
It's a very complex issue which is usually boiled down to very simplistic, black and white views with sinister, individual, personal malice inferred towards all sides. There are a myriad of political agendas, bewildering in how they are seemingly so opposed yet are closely intertwined. I actually believe that individually the Mexicans and other Latin Americans are least to blame for their illegal entry, regardless of how destructive they collectively are. They are used by cheap labor factions, regarded as future voters, sought by brown American supremacists, used by their home governments, exploited by criminal enterprises domestic and international, and I believe a good percentage of them will screw each other over for some small gain or advantage. Are they all malicious? No. Do I trust any of them blindly? No. Are there a number whom I like? Yes. Are there criminals among them? Yes. Are they all criminally motivated even though the crime of illegal entry is involved? No. Do all those who came here illegally by either their own free will or as an adult need to be deported? Yes, whether I like it or not concerning the individual. Should the 14th amendment be revisited so as to deny birthright citizenship to children of illegal entrants? Yes. Should people who were so born and grew up into the US before such legislation is implemented be deported? No. Deport their parents? Yes. Should politicians, employers and others who violate or fail to regard immigration law be severely punished? YES!!! Does race indicate nationality or loyalty to a particular nation? No. Does the race of an individual indicate prejudices or attitudes concerning race or nationality? No. Does race indicate loyalty to an agenda? No. Are there differences (cultural, attitudes, and otherwise) between illegal entrants, their American born children, and their further descendants? Yes. Can people be mislead or otherwise swayed by politically motivated racial propaganda? Yes. On all sides of illegal immigration issues.
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Ilbegone, if there were more posts like the one you just made I don't think there would be so much "board fatigue", which you referred to earlier when you said you were tired of posting the same things over and over again. I can totally relate to that syndrome, and it also goes for reading the same things over and over again. This is one reason I don't participate in the forum as much as I used to. Your posts are unique in that you have the ability to combine a lot of well-thought out ideas into a coherent post which doesn't just consist of a regurgitation of the same cliches that have been repeated ad nauseum. I think the more thoughtful the post, the more responses it is likely to generate. At least that's what I'd like to believe.
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OPEN BORDERS AND MASS AMNESTY Ich Bin Ein Arizonan! "I entirely reject the concept, however, of "anchor babies." If parents are found to be here illegally, then the whole family, children as well, should be sent back to the parents' country of origin." Last edited by LAPhil; 08-15-2010 at 01:23 PM. |
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I think we're all missing the obvious. People tune out because there's not as much exciting things happening here. In the old days, street activity was new and interesting. There were wrongs to right, and frauds to expose. New people came and that added to the excitement. But then the newness wore off, as did the welcome of some within, and people moved on to the new sliced bread. I see the new sliced bread as being like the TEA parties. You watch....they'll go the same way. Unfortunately for us, people have a short attention span overall, and they like new things. Holding their attention is hard enough, but asking their participation raises the threshold tenfold. But there are also committed folks out there who don't require such high maintennance. SOS is a non-profit and we don't change our product to suit the fickle world around us. People can rely on us to be here when they need us, and they will. In addition, we will go through another cycle of popularity and interest. Maybe soo, maybe later.
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