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Old 04-14-2010, 08:53 PM
PochoPatriot PochoPatriot is offline
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We are living in a different time, and desperate times call for desperate measures. If we stay on the same road we're on, and do not change our approach to dealing with the illegals, we will lose all. So is it better to give some to save the rest, or to not give any and lose it all?

Things just can's stay the same, and we can't keep the status quo.
On this, I respectfully agree to disagree. It's a slippery slope once you start lowering LE standards. I refuse to give any essential liberties for temporary security.
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Old 04-15-2010, 04:13 AM
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On this, I respectfully agree to disagree. It's a slippery slope once you start lowering LE standards. I refuse to give any essential liberties for temporary security.
Bottom line its simple , produce a valid ID , not a problem , I would think in most cases even without Id if your a legal resident it wouldn't be more than a minor inconvenience to produce "papers",

Nobody is talking about outlawing "mexicans" or anyone else , Or taking away anyones rights , (unless your here illegally)


"I refuse to give any essential liberties for temporary security"
As a legal citizen exactly what are you being ask to give up?
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:04 PM
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Personally I feel this "profiling" Bs is way out of control

Since most illegal in Az and indeed in the US are hispanic , they should "reasonably" all be suspect

Besides , If I get pulled over I have to produce ID

And before anyone spouts off , I was "profiled" as looking like someone robbing 7-11s , I just produced my Id , explained where I was and where I was going and I was on my way.

If you want to put the heat on illegals , or the greatest amount of them , yes , you start profiling and you don't stop.
Sure, being pulled over and having to produce an ID is not the presumption of guilt. Yes, profiling is a fundamental part of criminal investigation. The word "profiling" has been twisted to mean something entirely different. It has been used to make people forget that at one time, you could be harrased by the police if you were found in a white neighborhood and you were an African American. And of course at one time in the Jim Crow south, it was genuinely against the law to be black and in certain places, using certain facilities that were supposed to be white only.
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