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Old 04-04-2010, 10:26 AM
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In my own opinion, based on many years of watching border events, and based on my own experience 17 years overseas, coupled with current activities, I think I have strong intuition to think that somehow Al Qaeda is mixed up with some segments of the drug cartels. Certainly our co-patriots have been picking through the border trash and found time after time evidence of Arabs in papers written Arabic left behind. Many times there have been reports of Arabs seen and apprehended crossing. Reports of Al Qaeda paying coyotes $35,000 to $50,000 for a crossing of a terrorist. Reports of sophisticated, modern arms, grenades, RPG's, mortars, hand held missiles, and stock piles of other weapons commonly involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan skirmishes. Weapons that would not commonly be used by human traffickers and drug pushers. Granted some of these could have been introduced by the renegade Mexican armed forces personnel, Los Zetas, that were trained in the USA and returned to cross over to the drug cartels.

It isn't sufficient to blame only Mexicans. I think this invasion and the murders of Americans also has it's roots in overseas elements. When those elements are really exposed then we will have some better justification to take increased action. Furthermore, the elimination of Mexican vermin may not be sufficient. The immobilization of some American vermin is also something that the USA will benefit from just as much.

It takes two to tango. Crossing the drugs is only profitable because there is distribution and consumption domestically. And it is readily evident that the appetite is quite large.

There is no scarcity of Americans ready and willing to harbor, shelter, hide, feed, transport, pay, treat, teach, hire, protect the Mexican vermin and many other nationalities here illegally. And there is no scarcity of Americans who will not enforce the present Federal Immigration and Customs laws already on the books.

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Old 04-04-2010, 11:08 AM
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"embrace methods or even proposals that associate themselves with bombing, mayhem, slaughter, or similar things and give rise to the accusation that they are just all wild, foaming at the mouth extremists."
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Yet Hitler did this exact thing

When the invasion of this country goes a bit further , when the tipping point is we can remain the USA or be taken over by proxy , You will see a leader that will advocate exactly what Don is saying , and he will get support and you all know it.

One only has to look at the turn of events , a few years ago we hated to be called "racists" , it was the demon , now it has very little meaning anymore to most of us.
"we are peaceful and not violent" , For now
But how many of you truthfully are armed and ready , just in case?

We put up a "non violent" front because we know the raza idiots and the left will use it against us. but how many of you will go to the slaughter peacefully like sheep when they come for you?

I'm not defending Dons oppinion , nor am I endorsing it

I'm saying that sooner or later , we either fish or cut bait

And you all know it.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:41 PM
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It is a complete waste of time ranting about Mexico's contribution to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a vaste international conspiracy that victimizes many different countries, not just the US. The first priority of anyone sincerely inflamed about illegal immigration is to confront illegal immigration and not just one country, no matter how that country dominates the problem for us.

Picking on the Mexicans is a poor strategy. The public debate is falsely structured so that anytime anyone says the word "Mexican", they are identified as fixing on some racial orientation, either pro or con. And it is completely unnecessary. All you have to keep repeating is "illegal immigrant" and you could be talking about any or all of them depending on the context you are speaking.

If one insists on constantly focusing on Mexicans when it is so obviously unnecessary, any observer should be able conclude that you do have a racist agenda. Especially if you have publicly expressed admiration for racist scumbag organizations like the KKK. This is also a special problem in the case of Mexico, since Mexicans are falsely posed as a non European race. Assuming a racist attitude towards Mexicans just props up the Raza-ists. Remember "raza" in Spanish is "race" and so "La Raza" means "The Race", refering to Mexicans as a racial type distinct in some specially endowed way
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:05 PM
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To be honest , Europe has a far worse problem with their immigrants , a vast majority of them are legal

Its an easy deal to always blame the "mexicans" , Illegal aliens in America come from very many countries , Of course the vast majority do come from mexico and they are the ones raising the most rukus and demands.

Any country with balls would kick those idiots to the curb , but alas , we don't we let them just keep spouting off and kowtowing to their demands.

For how long? I'm saying payback is coming and when it does , either your with "with us , or agin us"
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:30 PM
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It is a complete waste of time ranting about Mexico's contribution to illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a vaste international conspiracy that victimizes many different countries, not just the US. The first priority of anyone sincerely inflamed about illegal immigration is to confront illegal immigration and not just one country, no matter how that country dominates the problem for us.

Picking on the Mexicans is a poor strategy. The public debate is falsely structured so that anytime anyone says the word "Mexican", they are identified as fixing on some racial orientation, either pro or con. And it is completely unnecessary. All you have to keep repeating is "illegal immigrant" and you could talking about any or all of them depending on the context you are speaking.

If one insists on constantly focusing on Mexicans when it is so obviously unnecessary, any observer should be able conclude that you do have a racist agenda. Especially if you have publicly expressed admiration for racist scumbag organizations like the KKK. This is also a special problem in the case of Mexico, since Mexicans are falsely posed as a non European race. Assuming a racist attitude towards Mexicans just props up the Raza-ists. Remember "raza" in Spanish is "race" and so "La Raza" means "The Race", refering to Mexicans as a racial type distinct in some specially endowed way
Where your theory fails you, is that illegal immigration is a part of an open borders agenda with mexico, and a large portion of America is opposed to dropping the border and letting the mexican nationals come and go as easily as do Canadians, mainly because of cultural differences and the fact that there seems to be an exponentially larger percentage of mexican criminals in the flow of migrants/visitors/workers or what have you than that of any other bordering country.

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Old 04-04-2010, 03:15 PM
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Where your theory fails you, is that illegal immigration is a part of an open borders agenda with mexico, and a large portion of America is opposed to dropping the border and letting the mexican nationals come and go as easily as do Canadians, mainly because of cultural differences and the fact that there seems to be an exponentially larger percentage of mexican criminals in the flow of migrants/visitors/workers or what have you than that of any other bordering country.
Mexico is not the only country with an open borders agenda, it is only the most obvious and blatant one to us. And part of the global strategy is to let countries like Mexico make all the noise. Notice how quiet the Chinese are about the issue. The whole false race issue is also a global strategy. The fake confrontation with racism is something that goes all the way to the UN.

It is also obviously a failure to point out the presence of criminals among illegal immigrants. This only plays into the argument that the rest of the illegals are not doing anything wrong. If we do not insist that all the illegal immigrants are criminals and that this criminality is what makes it so easy for illegals to be criminals, we have that much less to argue against amnesty. This is the simple truth. Illegal immigrants are all criminals and if a few of them, most of them or all of them commit other crimes why is anyone shocked?

I don't think anyone in the US really cares about cultural differences as long as people with different cultures are willing to expose their cultures to the scrutiny of others and weather the criticism that results. If your cultural values are bad values, then nobody is obliged to respect your culture. Cultural relativism is a dying system of beliefs. It simply is not true that all cultures are all happily heading for some more perfect form. Some really are doomed to extinction. We hope.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:38 PM
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The problem is you don't just get the mexican criminals

Mexico is the gateway to America for every south American country
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Old 04-05-2010, 12:34 PM
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The problem is you don't just get the mexican criminals

Mexico is the gateway to America for every south American country
Plus anyone else who whats to sneak in from anywhere in the world.
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