BREAKING! Obama Papers Leaking Out! Birth Papers-School Papers Exposed!

[Twoller]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I have never gotten into this Birther Thing. It just seems like a Dirty Harry movie. How did someone think about it in 1961, some simply will never give up their only hope. It seems like Comedy Forum to me.

The compulsion to corrupt US citizenship goes back a long way and the obsession like that existed in the Obamination's mother is only matched by the reactionaries who insist in inflating the basic issue into something or somewhere else. Sort of like the assassination of JFK.

The guy should not even be a citizen, much less a president. It doesn't matter where he was born, what does matter is what is beyond debate, which is who his father was -- a noncitizen.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Twoller

The guy should not even be a citizen, much less a president. It doesn't matter where he was born, what does matter is what is beyond debate, which is who his father was -- a noncitizen.

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by DerailAmnesty.com

That assertion is flat out wrong. You have misstated federal law pertaining to birthright citizenship.

Obama's mother is a U.S. citizen; further, his father was lawfully in the United States on a student visa (two currently irrelevant legal points). Obama was born on U.S. soil. Hence, he's a citizen.

Not only is what you have stated inaccurate, it would be inaccurate if the law was modified in the fashion many border security activists would like to see undertaken. Currently, a child is legally a U.S. citizen if he is born on U.S. soil, regardless of his parents' unlawful residency status. Many individuals feel this is the result of a perversion/misinterpretation of the Civil War Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. They opine that a person should not receive legal residency if born in our country, if one or more parents is an illegal alien. Even under this formula, Barack Obama would be a citizen.

So Twoller, you've got me confused. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, why isn't he a citizen?

Ah, Sam, people like the one you're addressing have already made up their minds, so don't confuse them with the facts.

As an aside, this is one of the rabbit holes the border security movement has gone down, and lost a great deal of credibility due to it.

[Kathy63]

When dealing with a criminal enterprise it is always wise to use any weapon available.

Like this.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32752.html


“We just hit him with a freight train,” one Democratic official familiar with the anti-Coats effort said Monday. “It’s Politics 101: Frame the guy early.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz0fG0ETcSf

It's the democratic political process FRAME THE GUY EARLY.

Considering that democrats want ozbama to take the next step, which is not only frame the guy but take out the opposition by assassination, gagsta style, it will be interesting to see how the public puts up with it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/...ans/index.html

Channel your inner Al Capone and go gangsta against your foes. Let 'em know that if they aren't with you, they are against you, and will pay the price.

Democrats are basically criminals. Accusing ozbama of not being a citizen is mild, really mild compared with encouraging the government to engage in assassinations.

[Cruisingfool]

Originally Posted by PochoPatriot

Ah, Sam, people like the one you're addressing have already made up their minds, so don't confuse them with the facts.

As an aside, this is one of the rabbit holes the border security movement has gone down, and lost a great deal of credibility due to it.

Wouldn't you consider a person in this Country, serving as President, that has every item of his History sealed, and his Grandmother is on video in Mombasa, Kenya clearly stating she witnessed her grandturd being born in Mombasa, Kenya, as an illegal alien?

[Cruisingfool]

Link
Eegad! Stop Mischaracterizing the Eligibility Issue

IT’S NOT JUST THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

by V. Harlow, blogging at http://www.vventures.net

(Feb. 10, 2010) — The eligibility issue has constantly been mischaracterized as a “citizenship” issue or a “birth certificate” issue, and major media outlets keep playing on this same theme over and over, ridiculing those who want the truth.

I suspect they are partially driven by fear: fear they won’t get interviews, fear they won’t get invitations, fear they won’t get to cover important issues if this issue is included in what they cover. Even Fox News continues to ridicule and mischaracterize this very important Constitutional issue.

Can we attack this administration on other valid issues? Yes, of course. I don’t advocate doing anything less. It’s not right to push aside the very valid and important Constitutional issue of the eligibility of the current resident of White House to hold the job as though it is of no consequence. There have been people scoffing for over a year now, yet lawsuits continue. The issue is law. The highest office in the land, the one responsible for upholding our laws and protecting our freedoms, is the issue.

Most reasonable people don’t question the “citizenship” of Obama. The Constitution has special requirements for holders of the presidency. One of them is “natural born citizen.” That is a higher standard than “citizen.” It is a higher standard than “native citizen.”

Some people signed off on Obama’s qualification rather cavalierly either knowingly or carelessly. They need to be held to account.

It’s easy to ridicule and destroy the reputations and careers of people fighting this battle, but it’s wrong. Orly Taitz, regardless of whether or not one questions her professionalism, does not deserve the treatment she has received from anonymous callers, malicious supporters of Obama, or from major media outlets. She comes willing and determined to defend our Constitution, while so many charged with that responsibility have forsaken it completely.

Donofrio, Pidgeon, Berg, Kreep, and others fighting the battle do not deserve the ridicule. The American people overwhelmingly want to know the truth.

An honest hearing is required.

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The Constitution has special requirements for holders of the presidency. One of them is “natural born citizen.” That is a higher standard than “citizen.” It is a higher standard than “native citizen.”

[Eagle1]

Attorney Phil Berg of Obamacrimes.com has provide the specifics of why Obama isn't a citizen down to the minutae.

Phil is licensed to practice before the Supreme Court and has presented cases there before.

I have personally conversed with Phil and his reasons for declaring that Obama is not a citizen are well documented on his website.

[DerailAmnesty.com]

Originally Posted by Eagle1

Attorney Phil Berg of Obamacrimes.com has provide the specifics of why Obama isn't a citizen down to the minutae.

Phil is licensed to practice before the Supreme Court and has presented cases there before.

I have personally conversed with Phil and his reasons for declaring that Obama is not a citizen are well documented on his website.

I'll read it over the weekend. This is the guy out of Pennsylvania, right?

[PochoPatriot]

Originally Posted by Cruisingfool

Wouldn't you consider a person in this Country, serving as President, that has every item of his History sealed, and his Grandmother is on video in Mombasa, Kenya clearly stating she witnessed her grandturd being born in Mombasa, Kenya, as an illegal alien?

I am quite satisfied with the documents I have seen. This is a rabbit hole that was invented by people that dislike the President for reasons other than his politics, IMHO.