LA human trafficking

[Twoller]

The real money in human trafficking is in voluntary illegal immigrants. This is just one more evasion of the basic problem of purging this country of illegal immigrants.

If this little political front gains any momentum, isn't it pretty clear that every illegal immigrant who has conspired to occupy this or any country is going to claim to be a victim of involuntary human trafficking? Especially if they are in debt to some cockroach who they paid to get here.

Victimhood from illegal immigration is to be ignored. The basic problem of confronting illegal immigrants, no matter what their circumstances, is to be advanced. This is like witness amnesty where illegals who are victims of crimes get amnesty as long as they are needed for purposes of prosecution. It is a scam in the making.

[Kathy63]

Originally Posted by Twoller

The real money in human trafficking is in voluntary illegal immigrants. This is just one more evasion of the basic problem of purging this country of illegal immigrants.

If this little political front gains any momentum, isn't it pretty clear that every illegal immigrant who has conspired to occupy this or any country is going to claim to be a victim of involuntary human trafficking? Especially if they are in debt to some cockroach who they paid to get here.

Victimhood from illegal immigration is to be ignored. The basic problem of confronting illegal immigrants, no matter what their circumstances, is to be advanced. This is like witness amnesty where illegals who are victims of crimes get amnesty as long as they are needed for purposes of prosecution. It is a scam in the making.

You are absolutely right and this needs to be said again.

[ilbegone]

We agree that illegals need to be sent home.

Perhaps the concept of what is just is where we differ in our beliefs.

To illustrate my point:

I am a believer in capital punishment. No such thing as life imprisonment, which I believe is actually more inhumane than execution and leads to control problems in prison as well as affecting greater society.


When there is an execution for a capital crime, and regardless of how heinous the crime is should we:

1) conduct the execution in the swiftest manner possible? Get the thoroughly unpleasant task over with.

2) Keep the prisoner alive as long as possible during the execution while subjecting him to the greatest agony possible? After all, he brought it on himself with his criminal activity.


Having posed that thought, If our immigration laws were enforced we would have much less slavery and other victimization to deal with.

However, another thing to consider.

This is an organization which is intended for personal, public participation. However, the three of us don't go to rallies, yet we place much of the commentary on this board.

What sort of a public internet face do we put on the people who faithfully go to rallies but don't post much or not at all? What effect do we have on people who read our words? Do we help the cause, or do we hinder it by offending people who don't know what the organization is about? Do we give the opposition ammunition to use against the organization?

Think about it, please.

[admin]

However, another thing to consider.

This is an organization which is intended for personal, public participation. However, the three of us don't go to rallies, yet we place much of the commentary on this board.

What sort of a public internet face do we put on the people who faithfully go to rallies but don't post much or not at all? What effect do we have on people who read our words? Do we help the cause, or do we hinder it by offending people who don't know what the organization is about? Do we give the opposition ammunition to use against the organization?

Think about it, please.

We are a non-profit. As such, we are a support group. We would be very inconsistent with that if we limited our forum and organization to those who only help us . We also need feedback from the constituency to guide us. this is the difference between a PAC or other type of organization that demands action from everyone to service their cause. Our job is to inspire people to action, not belittle them into it. Of course nobody likes a continuous monday morning quarterbacker who does nothing else, but mostly those types get repudiated or dismissed by the participating body here anyway.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

We agree that illegals need to be sent home.

Perhaps the concept of what is just is where we differ in our beliefs.

To illustrate my point:

I am a believer in capital punishment. No such thing as life imprisonment, which I believe is actually more inhumane than execution and leads to control problems in prison as well as affecting greater society.


When there is an execution for a capital crime, and regardless of how heinous the crime is should we:

1) conduct the execution in the swiftest manner possible? Get the thoroughly unpleasant task over with.

2) Keep the prisoner alive as long as possible during the execution while subjecting him to the greatest agony possible? After all, he brought it on himself with his criminal activity.


Having posed that thought, If our immigration laws were enforced we would have much less slavery and other victimization to deal with.

However, another thing to consider.

This is an organization which is intended for personal, public participation. However, the three of us don't go to rallies, yet we place much of the commentary on this board.

What sort of a public internet face do we put on the people who faithfully go to rallies but don't post much or not at all? What effect do we have on people who read our words? Do we help the cause, or do we hinder it by offending people who don't know what the organization is about? Do we give the opposition ammunition to use against the organization?

Think about it, please.

Something to think about.