Boehner raised the debt ceiling, will it now be easier to pass amnesty?

[Rim05]

I simply cannot understand why 'we the people' are not doing more. I realize that those of us who have been fighting for so long, such as AG and my self, are tired and have grown older. It is time for the younger citizens to take the reins from us.
I am still here but not on the streets. Scoff at Dems but all are not as they are protrayed. That notion is like the spin you see in the papers and on TV.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I simply cannot understand why 'we the people' are not doing more. I realize that those of us who have been fighting for so long, such as AG and my self, are tired and have grown older. It is time for the younger citizens to take the reins from us.

We have to reach the middle class who are struggling but not yet distressed enough to definitively put their collective feet down.

On the other hand, since the late 60's and certainly revved up since the early 80's is the far left indoctrination presented in public schools as "education". We have to get past that impediment, as well as all the middle class college graduates who have been successfully propagandized and are politically active.

In general there is an age division concerning amnesty. Older will tend to be against, and younger will tend to be for.

Most who are receiving social services or are employed in some fashion catering to immigration are in the far left pocket - blindly or not, a DHS employee who processes naturalization documents is not going to be against amnesty, nor is anyone receiving social services going to vote Republican.

Originally Posted by Rim05

I am still here but not on the streets. Scoff at Dems but all are not as they are protrayed. That notion is like the spin you see in the papers and on TV.

Politically speaking, there are gradients from the insane far left to the insane far right. I believe that the hard far left is no more than 20% of the population, but they tend to control education and the media. I further believe that the insane far right is even less of the population and is largely impotent by being marginalized for the conspiracy theory kooks they are and the middle right right of center is slandered and spun into blood sucking racists by the media and educational process.

I believe that in different times and different places certain labels have different meanings.

"Liberal" and "Conservative" would mean something different in 19th century America than they do in the 21st century, and certainly the 21st century Republican and Democrat parties are different from the times of presidents Jackson, Lincoln and both Roosevelts.

To be conservative or liberal in 19th century Mexico (and probably any other time) is not what we would assume by our late 20th - early 21st century American understandings.

As well, nutball, far left "Progressivism" has usurped the label of "Liberal", which is further attached to the Democrat Party.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Rim05

I simply cannot understand why 'we the people' are not doing more. I realize that those of us who have been fighting for so long, such as AG and my self, are tired and have grown older. It is time for the younger citizens to take the reins from us. V.

Oh Rim, I am not that tired. I have grown older of course, but the fire still burns hot on this issue for me. I'm not as active lately due to a couple of other reasons. I'm hoping that things will turn around soon for that. I'll be posting something about that here in the near future.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

What I've noticed has really changed is the lack of skilled labor. The last few months Fillmore advertised for a full time City Maintenance II position starting between $17.50-$21.50 an hour. They ran the ad for about 6 weeks and a few people applied but no one could meet the qualifications. So now the City is lowering its expectations and will be advertising for a Maintenance I which is close to an entry level position. This sort of thing is happening everywhere. What has happened is Americans have been pushed away from working certain jobs because they either don't speak Spanish or the HR's will only hire Hispanics and most young people don't want to take the time it takes to obtain the skills or invest in the education to get the theory. We have a really ignorant work force these days. Really skilled labor is getting harder and harder to find. This is going to have a really negative impact on this country and it won't matter who is in charge.

[Rim05]

Oh Rim, I am not that tired. I have grown older of course, but the fire still burns hot on this issue

I don't mean that as something bad. When you talked about 'something' keeping you down, I thought you were ill. Glad to hear you are not.
That old age thing just keeps counting. Tired comes with the age.
No hard feelings?

[wetibbe]

We here on the east coast appreciate our fellow Americans on the West Coast. The fire burns in your belly.

Not to disparage, we New Yorkers lost 3,000 of our good and decent people including friends and family members permanently injured 9/11 2001. The collateral damage continues. At present over 40,000 injured, damaged, injured, sick dying from toxic pollution . In addition we have survived 14 fourteen malevolent attacks by lunatic terrorists.

On that theme I'm providing here a link to new studies about illegal immigration crimes. My data that I have distributed for years has now been eclipsed by this shocking addition. I have contacted the author for updates and additions and also significantly distributed this to law enforcement and politicians.

http://cis.org/myth-law-abiding-illegal-alien

Thanks for what you all do to rescue our great nation.

[Greg in LA]

Jean, can you give me the info to apply for that maintenance job?

I think I might know someone who might want it.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

Originally Posted by Greg in LA

Jean, can you give me the info to apply for that maintenance job?

I think I might know someone who might want it.

You'd have to contact the City of Fillmore City Hall. I'm not sure when or if they've already advertised for the job, but you can ask. They by law have to advertise for any city position. Anyone with some sort of skill set should land that job if they apply.