Israel Vows To Defend It's Borders

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Greg in LA

Ayatollahgondola, I think your respect for the Israelis is misplaced.

I don't care a hoot about jews or israel. I was only pointing out what a person who runs a soveriegn country should be doing if he wants to stay a sovereign country; you defend the country's borders when you have a mass breach of them. Obviously our president doesn't want the US to be a sovereign country

[Greg in LA]

Twoller,

The only similarity between The USA and Israel is that in the 1920's and the 1930's there was a wave of European and American Jews immigrating to Palestine. The native population in Palestine tried to stop them, but the British that were controlling Palestine at the time wouldnt stop it. The Zionist Jews were coming to Palestine for a "better life" after all. Besides the land of Palestine once belonged to the Jews. The political leaders of the Jewish immigrants in Palestine had dreams of reconquest and creating a new land for the Jews based on racial homogeneity.

In the United States we have waves of Mexicans comming to our country "for a better life", the native population here tried to stop it and secure the border, but the controlling governments wouldn't stop the Mexican immigrants from coming either. The immigrants from Mexico felt that they had the right to immigrate to America as the American South West once belonged to Mexico. The political leaders of the new Mexican immigrants in America also have dreams of reconquest maybe even to create a new land, (Azlan). At the very least they needed to politically organize the Mexican immigrants based on their racial homogeneity (La Raza).

From the 1920-through 1940's there were probably about 300,000 Jews that immigrated to Palestine, and they took over. In America in the last 30 years we have had 30,000,000 Mexican and Central Americans immigrate here.

Brother, I hope you see the connection. I just don't want us to become the Palestinians.

[Twoller]

There never has been anything like a country of Palestine. There is no such thing, nor has there ever been any such thing as Palestinians. The term "Palestinian" was a term applied by the Roman occupation of Israel after the fall of Israel to further propogandize against the Jewish state of Israel. It refers to the peoples who settled the area from islands in the Mediteranean. It was a term resurrected by Arab propagandists allied with Nazi Germany who assisted in Nazi anti-Jew efforts in the Middle East.

Jews did not migrate to Israel to find a better life, more frequently, they were forced to leave against their will. They fled persecution. Jews have always and continue to accept the presence of non-Jewish peoples in the Jewish state of Israel and the Jewish people themselves are racially diverse, the Diaspora has done a lot to diversify them racially. It is Jewish belief that unites them.

[Greg in LA]

Brother Twoller,

I understand your point that, "there was no such thing like a country of Palestine". Except the British who conquered Palestine from the Ottomans disagree with you.

In regards to your assertion that the term Palestinian,

" was a term resurrected by Arab propagandists allied with Nazi Germany who assisted in Nazi anti-Jew efforts in the Middle East.


Brother Twoller, I am sorry to say that most of your comments in your last post including the one quoted above are complete nonsense. The statement quoted above is complete nonsense, mostly because after the Defeat of the Turks in WWI the entire Middle East except Saudia Arabia and Iran was occupied and controlled by the British, and French.
The natives of Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Trans Jordan, Yemen, Baharain, Iraq, cyprus, oman, Yemen and Quatar were under Allied controll. There were no Nazi German alliances. The only Axis power involvment in the region were the Italians, which fought in North Africa.

Your statement that "Jews have always and continue to accept the presence of non-Jewish peoples in the Jewish state of Israel",
Brother Twoller, this statement is almost laughable. I ask that you please make this statement to the Gentiles that live in the town of Deir Yassin...Oh wait you can't because the zionist Jews killed them all. ( I am trying to show some humor, but unfortunatly it's black humor, and it is all so sad).

Or go ask one of the three million Palestinian's that became refugees in 1947.

Or go ask a Armenian Christian, Christian Arab or Christian Greek living under Israeli rule. Please ask them how the Zionist Jews treat the Gentiles in "the Jewish state of Israel". Brother twoller, if they answer you all I ask is that you please listen to them.

Brother Twoller, If I may I would like to reiterate my point. That point being that the natives of Palestine in 1947 lost their country to an invasion of immigrants. The Jewish immigrants comming to Palestine were not going there to assimilate, they were going their to take over.

In America we have an invasion that is vastly larger. The Mexican immigrants coming to America keep their racial , ethnic and linguistic identity, they don't adopt ours. They don't identify as White Americans, and they group politicaly on their ethnic allegiances (same as the Jews going to Palestine).

As we all know once the new immigrant population is large enough they the immigrants take over politically, and we "the Americans" become the conquered.

Brother Twoller whether you like it or not there is a connection.