Helen Thomas: Jews Control White House, Congress

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[Bear Flag Republican]

Originally Posted by LAPhil

There he goes again, folks. It's always them damn JOOOOS!

You know, he's at least making an intelligent argument as to what he thinks is a major problem affecting America adversely.
You're just belittling an American Patriot with anti-intellectualism and strawman arguments.
I'd offer to put it in simple words you can understand as "mentioning the fact that a certain number of wealthy zionists control the media and lobby congress heavily with that money for israel's interests, not American interests, does not mean one blames all jews for those same actions" but seeing as you're the same lot who equates the minutemen with the KKK, I'm afraid you're too stupid to understand such an argument.
So how about this simple one: "he didn't mention jews, you did."
or how about an even better one:
If you like israel better than America, then f**K off home before we send you back.

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by Bear Flag Republican

You know, he's at least making an intelligent argument as to what he thinks is a major problem affecting America adversely.
You're just belittling an American Patriot with anti-intellectualism and strawman arguments.
I'd offer to put it in simple words you can understand as "mentioning the fact that a certain number of wealthy zionists control the media and lobby congress heavily with that money for israel's interests, not American interests, does not mean one blames all jews for those same actions" but seeing as you're the same lot who equates the minutemen with the KKK, I'm afraid you're too stupid to understand such an argument.
So how about this simple one: "he didn't mention jews, you did."
or how about an even better one:
If you like israel better than America, then f**K off home before we send you back.

You've got this all wrong. Don has a history of making blatantly anti-Semitic statements on this forum. He doesn't have to mention the Jews every time: it's quite obvious where he's coming from. And don't assume I equate anti-Semitism with being anti-Israel, because I assure you I know the difference. You're the one making the straw man argument when you say I'm the same lot who equates the minutemen with the KKK, and frankly I find you rather disgusting for saying that. I'm not the stupid one here, you are.

[Twoller]

The Jews are the native inhabitants of Israel. It is the Muslims that are the colonizers. Palestinian nationalism is nothing more than an anti-semitic cult. The Jews are not native to Europe. They shouldn't be obligated to return to Israel, they have more than justified their presence anywhere in the Diaspora, unlike the rot flooding into Europe, the US and just about everywhere else.

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Twoller

The Jews are the native inhabitants of Israel. It is the Muslims that are the colonizers. Palestinian nationalism is nothing more than an anti-semitic cult.

How so?

Jews and Palestinians are closely related genetically - they mostly have the same ancestors. European Jews have an admixture of genes from the Italian peninsula from about the first century, "Persian" Jews are a little closer related to Palestinians if I remember right.

Religion is incidental.

Basically it's a family fight that goes back thousands of years long before the time of Jesus.

And, who's to really tell?

I met a Professor from UCSD who's family linage goes back to the founding nof Santa Fe in the 1600s. Jews think he's Jewish, Arabs think he's Arab, white people think he's Mexican, and Mexicans think he's white. Maybe everyone's right to a certain extent. Prior to 1492 Spain was largely a collection of Muslim kingdoms for 700 years, and Jews played an important part in both Christian and Muslim kingdoms. Arabic was the language of both Christian and Arab courts, and Ferdinand and Isabella wore Aribic clothing as they oversaw the downfall of Grenada, the last arab kingdom in Spain. Spanish Jews and Arabs also came to the New World with assumed identities in a bid to escape the post 1492 Spanish inquisition.

[Don]

The best evidence that she is right is the fact that within 72 hours after making these statements she was professionally destroyed.

A dumb goy like Mel Gibson who gets drunk and says unflattering things about God's chosen people is professionally destroyed. (What do Jews say about us when they get drunk?) By comparison, a nice Jewish boy like Roman Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year old shiksa (i.e. Jewish slur for a gentile woman) and he is the toast of the town, i.e. Hebrewwood.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

The best evidence that she is right is the fact that within 72 hours after making these statements she was professionally destroyed.

A dumb goy like Mel Gibson who gets drunk and says unflattering things about God's chosen people is professionally destroyed. (What do Jews say about us when they get drunk?) By comparison, a nice Jewish boy like Roman Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year old shiksa (i.e. Jewish slur for a gentile woman) and he is the toast of the town, i.e. Hebrewwood.

As I remember: If Polanski was the toast of town, it was not in a US town. He was a fugitive for quite some time. Most people are very unhappy in exile, and quite restricted by passport. Changing planes in a country with a treaty, and you could be on your way back to trial. And do child molesters really give a damn about the religious persuasion of their victims? Maybe some do, but my exposure to them indicates that it isn't a consideration at all.
I think you have circumstantial evidence of your theories on jewish control, but you'd never get a conviction in a court of law, let alone the court of public opinion. I'd challenge you to do the hard work first. Get the videos of secret meetings, and show us copies of documents drawn up with ring imprints on bees wax seals. I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong; I really don't know. But I don't fall for innuendo unless you're a member of my secret society.

(What do Jews say about us when they get drunk?)

Who wants to hang out with drunks?

[ilbegone]

Originally Posted by Don

The best evidence that she is right is the fact that within 72 hours after making these statements she was professionally destroyed.

A dumb goy like Mel Gibson who gets drunk and says unflattering things about God's chosen people is professionally destroyed. (What do Jews say about us when they get drunk?) By comparison, a nice Jewish boy like Roman Polanski drugs and rapes a 13 year old shiksa (i.e. Jewish slur for a gentile woman) and he is the toast of the town, i.e. Hebrewwood.

What you say doesn't mean shit either without some names; it's just a broad, suggestive generalization which says nothing definative.

I'll ask you the same to either put up or shut up:

By name, just exactly who controls the media and lobbies Congress for Israel's interest?

[LAPhil]

Originally Posted by ilbegone

I'll ask you the same to either put up or shut up:

I can pretty much guarantee you he won't. He'd rather just keep taking the cheap unsubstantiated shots. You can't reason with someone who's irrational.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

If this tread continues to be abrasive, it doesn't matter who is being abrasive, I'll close it.

I know the written word is sometimes misunderstood because the emphases and what one is trying to stress isn't always relayed to the reader, and as a result people get angry.