True nature of alipac

[Ayatollahgondola]

Well, I can see you're a passionate guy,

I'm not sure what political correctness means anymore, because that term gets used to describe a wider range of circumstances all the time, but whatever community you voice your opinions in are going to retain some element of control over the manner in which people express themselves. I'm not convinced Gheen is public enemy #1 given the likes of people that rape rob and kill our citizens or try to diminish or neuter our border defenses which in turn allows more foreign criminals and agents in that do the same or accomplish other nefarious tasks. But maybe you know something I do not, and we're always willing to listen, as long as it doesn't violate the rules here. Just a word of advice if you have a mind to take it:
I've always been a proponent of using terms and language that provide the best protections of my first amendment rights, and one is to always make it known that my statements are my opinions, unless they are proven or referenced facts. Something like this:
"I think William Gheen is a complete fraud and should be exposed as such before he causes more damage." Those two words preceeding your earlier statement could go a long ways in protecting your right to express your thoughts in just about any venue.
So, with that said, I'll welcome you to SOS, but do keep in mind our main purpose and agenda which are posted in the official section, and that Gheen still has many supporters within our midst who are also entitled to their opinions of him and ALIPAC for that matter, so we don't want to have our mission get totally sidetracked by arguments over intergroup rivalries. It wouldn't do to have our whole movement engulfed in disputes with each other while foreigners run amok within our perimeters.

[Jeanfromfillmore]

AG what are you doing up at this time of the morning? Am I having an influence on you?

[Rim05]

I was wondering the same thing about you Jean. However, if you see me here at 2 or 3 AM it is probably because I woke up and can't get back to sleep.

[Don]

Gheen is indeed a phoney and no friend of free speech.

Several years ago he was involved in some local political dispute and people were writing letters to the mayor, city council, etc. I dont' remember where it was, but I think it was in the East somewhere. Gheen comes out with a "Decree" that "white" racists are not to get involved in this campaign. (He's OK with black and brown racists, but not "white" ones.)

Who the hell is this guy to issue a "decree" to tell American citizens of whatever color whether or not they can write letters to government officials? He's very arrogant and thinks he's Napoleon or something. The upshot it that he's another coward and double talker who wants to relegate whites to a level of second class citizenship so that he can brag that he's not a "racist."

Look at the name of his group: Americans for Legal Immigration.

If he favors "legal" immigration, then why is he against amnesty. Anybody who supports "legal" immigration should also support amnesty because that way all immigration will be "legal."

How weirdly Orwellian that he takes positions completely incosistent with his group's stated purpose (i.e. promoting "legal" immigration." ) I asked this question on his web site and was promptly banned. Send in money contributions, just don't ask questions this phony can't answer.

[Ayatollahgondola]

Originally Posted by Don

Gheen is indeed a phoney and no friend of free speech.

Several years ago he was involved in some local political dispute and people were writing letters to the mayor, city council, etc. I dont' remember where it was, but I think it was in the East somewhere. Gheen comes out with a "Decree" that "white" racists are not to get involved in this campaign. (He's OK with black and brown racists, but not "white" ones.)

Who the hell is this guy to issue a "decree" to tell American citizens of whatever color whether or not they can write letters to government officials? He's very arrogant and thinks he's Napoleon or something. The upshot it that he's another coward and double talker who wants to relegate whites to a level of second class citizenship so that he can brag that he's not a "racist.".

I can't speak for his organization at all, and I don't know anything about the incidents you mentioned there, but we don't generally take sides in racial issues at all. Packing up by race is not something we support. We may point out racially discriminatory policies that affect our citizens, but trend away from supporting any specific race. There's quite a few different races amongst the body that makes our community

[wetibbe]

Originally Posted by Don

Gheen is indeed a phoney and no friend of free speech.

Several years ago he was involved in some local political dispute and people were writing letters to the mayor, city council, etc. I dont' remember where it was, but I think it was in the East somewhere. Gheen comes out with a "Decree" that "white" racists are not to get involved in this campaign. (He's OK with black and brown racists, but not "white" ones.)

Who the hell is this guy to issue a "decree" to tell American citizens of whatever color whether or not they can write letters to government officials? He's very arrogant and thinks he's Napoleon or something. The upshot it that he's another coward and double talker who wants to relegate whites to a level of second class citizenship so that he can brag that he's not a "racist."

Look at the name of his group: Americans for Legal Immigration.

If he favors "legal" immigration, then why is he against amnesty. Anybody who supports "legal" immigration should also support amnesty because that way all immigration will be "legal."

How weirdly Orwellian that he takes positions completely incosistent with his group's stated purpose (i.e. promoting "legal" immigration." ) I asked this question on his web site and was promptly banned. Send in money contributions, just don't ask questions this phony can't answer.

My observation also about money! I quite agree. Prolific solicitations and "goals". Among other things I simply asked how members, supporters, contributors could know that even ONE fax had ever been sent in view, at the time, the Minuteman shell game/hand in the cookie jar was occuring and being exposed.

I suspect that there are many who are disenchanted but haven't spoken out.