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SOS Management and Operation Discussion Questions and answers about the management and operation of Save Our State. |
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There has to room for compromise, or nothing at all will get done. The California legislature is a perfect example of that sort of problem, where legislation of "SHOW OFF YOUR GAY PEEK-A-POO DOG DAY" is vastly more important than an unsustainable budget crisis. On the other hand, I believe the various electorates actually have had enough that if election promises to the population which elected them - on any side of any issue - are not kept, the mob will be out with sharp knives next election cycle. Quote:
But face it - the only stories the media are going to present concerning anti illegal immigration functions will be slanted and accusatory. Quote:
No amount of money is going to improve education results for the majority mentioned until reality is faced and admission as to why those problems exist. Quote:
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Thank you to Save Our State members
Yesterdays State of the Union speech, as pointed out by Roy Beck, did not have the following words...
"DREAM Act" or "legalization" or "comprehensive immigration reform." This was made possible by all of the SOS hard work through the last years,now spreading across America. At this point, I think more of our work should be on E-verify and enforcement. Based on my own recent experience, people are ready to hear the real story on this issue and not be blinded by the labels. Any SoCal rally is a good one as it lets the public know they are not alone in the way they see things now. Some of these people might have been unsympathetic in the past. The last few years have made it a little easier for the average LA resident to rethink illegal immigration. This should be a great time to add members! With better weather now,I am looking forward to be out there with all you guys. |
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Controversial Muslim cleric caught being smuggled into U.S. over Mexico border
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...co-border.html
Here is a situation that we could protest in Santa Monica. Even muslims would agree with us. It would give us a chance to talk to different people, that I believe, are looking for a "reason" now to support border enforcement. They have not been able to get past the "racist" label because of all the programming going on. We have a budget crisis, unemployment rate, and overall bad to worse economy to shake these people loose from their past ignorance. |
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Let's do it, santa monica's not too far. |
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There is an Event Organizers Group that you can join to discuss such things. I encourage you to do that and it will be discussed.
Why Santa Monica though? Where did that come from? The article said nothing about that area, and it's not central to all our members, just curious. |
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To get on the event organizers committee, go to the link in your upper left hand corner on the menu bar that says "User CP". Then go down the menu on the left to "Networking", and then you'll see "Group Memberships". Just click that you want to join "event planners" and the administrator will make it so within a day or two
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Location suggestion
I threw the idea of Santa Monica out there because I was thinking about the area around Third Steet promenade where some other groups have set up tables promoting various political views. The place has a mix of locals and tourists. It falls into my view that SOS has a fresh opportunity to educate the public. I think SOS had a past rally near the Santa Monica Pier. I was not there but I did see a video on Youtube.
I really do not know what area is "central" to our members as I am not aware of where everyone lives. I just assume that members close to any area will do what they can. I would hope that if there if a rally in San Bernadino, that SOS would not pass on it if I could not drive that far. That is the same reason I haven't driven to Big Bear lake in a while.lol! Anyway, I leave it up to the group to decide when and where. |
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For what it is worth
The original Minuteman Project and the original SOS both had unique goals. The Minuteman project was simple and brought attention to the border something that was not happening at all. SOS (Joe Turner) had a goal of bringing local attention to the issue by organizing local protest. Both strategies worked for awhile and they both failed.
Protests are a waste of time unless some political gain comes from it. Keep in mind that only politicians can change policies, laws, and enforcement practices...which is the only thing that is going to make a difference. Standing around with bull horns (sorry Sandy if you are around here), inviting counter protests, or inviting protestors that maybe counterproductive to the cause, does very little to sway public opinion or achieve any political gain. Until this is recognized, SOS, or any organization will always be a failure. They say politics is local, this is where the fight begins. Its voters that SOS needs, not protests. If a politician is pro amnesty, that is your target. Immigration or amnesty does not necessarily have to be the election issue. You use whatever is in your favor. You organize not by so cal, nor cal, you organize by political districts. You also don't advertize you are a anti illegal immigration platform. You are pro something or other. "Anti" gives a negative whereas "Pro" gives a positive. Protest have a place in politics.... but protest need to include a political strategy to be sucessful. |
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