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Don, if you are that supportive of this organization, don't you think that their board, and their events would better suit you? After all this board is multi-cultural and I would hope would not support any members or supporters of ANY white power group.
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We are not multi-cultural here. One Culture; American. We may be multi-racial though.
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Our culture is the culture of the United States Citizen. Our culture is the culture of citizenship. It's true, there are a lot of word games going on. Increasingly I think the idea of being an "American" does not include anything like being a US citizen any more. Not only is our culture the culture of US citizenship, but we advance the idea of national citizenship for other countries as well and respect their citizenship no matter what their race. Most peoples deserves a country they can call their own that respects the borders of others as well as their own. This is a respectable enough notion that people are willing to lie about their claims to nationalism, just as people lie about claims to citizenship.
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I was at the Simi Valley event and I am so proud of our OLD SOS that day. I am no expert on skin heads but that is what I thought when I saw them sweep in with their American flags. I went looking for OP but someone else found him before I did. They tried to agrue their case but had to leave or area.
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American culture does change to some extent as time goes on. 1830's America was not quite the same as 1780's America, just as the early 20th century was not the same as America in the 1950's. However, there was a continuity of something which came out of the English Civil War (fought on both sides of the Atlantic) which infused itself into a dynamic, classically American essence of American culture. However, that is being chipped away by our education system and instant gratification of short attention spans. I would agree that we are a nation of citizens rather than a nation of immigrants, but I'm not sure if the definition of culture is that of "citizenship" as opposed to "American". In this context I am reminded of all those people who join Fraternal organizations not because of any great desire to to be helpfully brotherly or exert oneself towards the purported charitable goals of those organizations, but rather to take benefit of the "economy boozing" to be found in many of those organizations. So they join up for cheap drinks and spend their time forming cliques and stabbing each other in the back. It seems that same scenario is what America is all about anymore. God, did I just depress myself. I'm going to go have a drink...
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A term definition is needed here. I believe in "soft" multi-culturalism". This means that people of various cultures are respected, but never given a superior position. There are different cultures in this country that though "American" have unique characteristics. Hard "multi-culturalism" is the state in which all non-white cultures are given a superior position, and white culture is denigrated and disparaged.
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However, there are those among "Latino" citizens who aren't totally poisoned by "Latino advocates" who benefited from Johnson and Nixon's continuing and greatly accelerated "affirmative action" policies and now loudly pretend forty years later that it's still 1954 in terms of racial equality. In allegorical terms, you might call them "independents" as compared to "democrats" and "republicans", the swing vote you might say. Does it make a crap whether we have people around us who confuse them with illegal aliens and are just as rabidly racist as "Latino advocates" are when the press isn't around? It does.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 09-08-2010 at 10:29 PM. |
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Oversimplification !
Customarily there is an oversimplification to the basic attitudes about immigrants. Dealing with two basic categories. 1. Americans. 2. Foreigners:
AMERICANS: * The attitudes of Americans towards immigrants covers a wide spectrum. One basic concept is political. The spectrum is from left to right, liberal to conservative. It also encompasses the prevalent political parties, Republican, Democrat, and to lesser degrees, independents, constitutionalists, communists and several other minors. a). The Americans can be categorized as religious - Churches and Congregations, politicians - Federal and State Senators, Congressmen, Attorneys Generals, US Attorneys, Aldermen, Free Holders, Assemblymen,Law enforcement - Police-Sheriffs, District Attorneys, City, Town, Village officials and the various councils, committees, legislators, Mayors, Business owners, Corporations, domestic and multi-national, farmers, dairy's, tree/plant/flower nursery's,retailers, supermarkets, restaurants, hotels/motels, rental accommodations/rooms/houses construction...................................... .................. ad infinitum. 1) Each of these has a different agenda, a different attitude, a different opinion. Some see only economic exploitation, some see the opportunity to fill pews and collection plates, some have a personal conviction of one sort or another, some see voters, some are anxious to ensure a steady supply of illicit narcotics and addicting substances........................................ ............... ad infinitum. 2) The apparent majority of these that are aware are ready willing and able to aid and abet illegal aliens one way or another and are completely committed to place those desires, convictions and aspirations above the law. Willing to run the risks until caught and prosecuted and not before. 3) There are some in law enforcement and public office that are willing to enforce the laws and some who are not. FOREIGNERS: * The foreign immigrants come from 197 countries. The illegal aliens come from the majority of these same countries. The head count has been estimated by some organizations as possibly 1 million per year. 1) Legal foreigners come for many reasons. To work, to marry, for asylum, to rejoin families, for religious freedom, for political freedom. 2) Some of these foreigners join with other foreigners and Americans to form lobbyists, pressure groups, advocates, organizations that have designs of one form or another on the USA, intending to bend it to their models, liking, aspirations by overt and hidden means and methods. Some are political, some are economic and some are terrorists. All try to advance their personal agendas by one means or another, legally or otherwise. 3) Illegal aliens come for various reasons from the majority of these countries. They are separated by DHS, CBP, into two broad categories: Mexicans and OTM's. The Mexicans comprise about 60% of the illegals. Of the balance a majority come from Latin countries in Central and South American and the Caribbean. The balance come from a broad range of countries all over the world and from all continents. Probably the majority come for economic reasons but those reasons are both legal and illegal. Some are already criminals escaping prosecution, pedophiles, human and drug traffickers and smugglers but universally the basic underlying reason is almost always some form of economic gain. 4) Of the illegals and legals, including the Americans, the Mexicans are the most active in fomenting political and economic mayhem in the USA. There are at least 6 basic categories. Some dream of Aztlan, some want to retake the territory, some do not, some aspire to political and economic dominance, some do not. Mexico is implementing the plan CONAPO to inject 25 to 35 million Mexicans into the USA in the next 30 years. It is a form of Germany's territorial expansion Lebensraum *( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum ) By the year 2050 it is projected that minorities will overtake white Americans and become the majority. Rhodesia *( Zimbabwe ) and South Africa are examples of what to expect vis-a-vis black/brown on white. Some of them have already said it ! Last edited by wetibbe; 09-09-2010 at 05:19 AM. |
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Illegal immigrants, no matter how they dominate demographically in the United States will ever have any kind of real meaning here, except as they are licensed to have by power holders. They have no cultural roots here and are not really interested in establishing any. The best they can manage or neighborhood facades and cultural adornments. The best representative of who they are will always be where they came from, not where they are at. And to the extent that legal immigrants share their cultures, they will exist here the same way. At the roots of the United States of America is resistance against colonization. We were born from it and we will shake it off again if we have to. Floods of people dumped here will not be enough to restrain us or dampen our resolve or confound a solution.
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Same thing happened in Mexico after the revolution. Many of the haciendas exchanged hands from criollo landowners to mestizo generals and the disaster was furthered along by politically popular "land redistribution" in favor of relatively unproductive subsistence hand farming. Quote:
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. |
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