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Our history, our work, some goodwill.... We tried to get it, but thus far it hasn't been successful. I'm still working on it a little. But really, as RIM mentioned, it's not just us; There's a pall cast all over the internet and in practice. I visited a couple leftist type events and they are down pretty hard too. I was even sanctioned on one of their forums for pointing out that the interest level seemed rather abysmal. Even on forums totally unrelated to immigration the interest is pretty weak. i wouldn't start blaming anyone here over it. |
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Notice Jeanfromfillmore is not posting any news items either. I am wating to hear something about 1070. You would think we would be hearing something out of Arizona, but nothing. Maybe the border guard bill is also supposed to eclipse the silence eminating out of Arizona.
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It's because Mr. O doesn't want most people to say anything and may be used as a scape goat.
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I wasn't blaming anyone here. Just making an observation.
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Overall, I believe much of it has to do with the economy and tiresome politics.
I myself have had enough of castigating politicians over the phone and am patiently waiting to vote out incumbents at every opportunity. While I have no love for either the core Democrat or Republican parties, I want to punish the Democrats. Then when the Republican party takes rejection of Democrats as a mandate to do whatever the hell the want to do (like the Democrats have done since the repudiation of Republicans last election cycle), I want to slap the dogshit out of the Republicans in turn. As far as posting here, I feel as though I have said much of the same over the years over and over and over again. I'm out of breath and tired of arguing the same points non stop. I really am not attracted to the other anti illegal sites, nor do I waste my time posting at pro illegal sites. I'm sick of the racial obsession, racial stereotyping, fabrication and disinformation and name calling on both sides, and have realized I'm not going to change anyone's convictions with rational discussion - or more to the point, what minute rational and respectful discussion there is to be found anywhere concerning illegal immigration. I think the open borders crowd understands there is not going to be an amnesty for as long as the economy is bad. On the other side, I don't believe there is any faith that the Federal government is going going to meaningfully enforce immigration law anytime soon. I think there is a lot of quietly seething anger which has a good chance of boiling over and burning the status quo. I just hope it doesn't blow out of control - we don't need a replay of the French Revolution.
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I don't know if it would be appropriate to mention the names here, but for those seeking longer threads on the same issues we discuss on this forum, there are blogs which usually consist of a column by a well-known commentator at the beginning which is followed by comments from readers. Depending on the writer and the nature of the column, there can be up to several hundred comments and replies within just a few hours. So it's not like people are becoming apathetic in general.
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OPEN BORDERS AND MASS AMNESTY Ich Bin Ein Arizonan! "I entirely reject the concept, however, of "anchor babies." If parents are found to be here illegally, then the whole family, children as well, should be sent back to the parents' country of origin." Last edited by LAPhil; 08-15-2010 at 07:32 AM. |
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In contrast, groups like SOS, NMI, ALIPAC, Minutemen, etc, are always soliciting for action of some type, and so there has always been an underlying current of involvement. |
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Will a revolution come? Well we have a government that is openly on the side of an invading army so I would argue that the revolution already took place and our country was snatched away from us while most were not paying attention. The current campaign to put the final nail in the coffin of American sovereignty by crushing American patriotic resistance is perceived as a kind of mopping up operation. How it will end is anyone's guess. Thank God popular American sentiment has finally come to our side. Better late than never. |
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The word "army" suggests top down single organization, and that's a wrong notion. Basically it's a mob with all sorts of motivations and personal agendas, many very similar and some not, which is being used by others for all sorts of political and other goals, or some sort of gain.
It's a very complex issue which is usually boiled down to very simplistic, black and white views with sinister, individual, personal malice inferred towards all sides. There are a myriad of political agendas, bewildering in how they are seemingly so opposed yet are closely intertwined. I actually believe that individually the Mexicans and other Latin Americans are least to blame for their illegal entry, regardless of how destructive they collectively are. They are used by cheap labor factions, regarded as future voters, sought by brown American supremacists, used by their home governments, exploited by criminal enterprises domestic and international, and I believe a good percentage of them will screw each other over for some small gain or advantage. Are they all malicious? No. Do I trust any of them blindly? No. Are there a number whom I like? Yes. Are there criminals among them? Yes. Are they all criminally motivated even though the crime of illegal entry is involved? No. Do all those who came here illegally by either their own free will or as an adult need to be deported? Yes, whether I like it or not concerning the individual. Should the 14th amendment be revisited so as to deny birthright citizenship to children of illegal entrants? Yes. Should people who were so born and grew up into the US before such legislation is implemented be deported? No. Deport their parents? Yes. Should politicians, employers and others who violate or fail to regard immigration law be severely punished? YES!!! Does race indicate nationality or loyalty to a particular nation? No. Does the race of an individual indicate prejudices or attitudes concerning race or nationality? No. Does race indicate loyalty to an agenda? No. Are there differences (cultural, attitudes, and otherwise) between illegal entrants, their American born children, and their further descendants? Yes. Can people be mislead or otherwise swayed by politically motivated racial propaganda? Yes. On all sides of illegal immigration issues.
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Freibier gab's gestern Hay burros en el maiz RAP IS TO MUSIC WHAT ETCH-A-SKETCH IS TO ART Don't drink and post. "A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a seat." - Old New York Yiddish Saying "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra Old journeyman commenting on young apprentices - "Think about it, these are their old days" SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Never, ever, wear a bright colored shirt to a stand up comedy show. Last edited by ilbegone; 08-15-2010 at 12:30 PM. |
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