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I'd still like to hear something about Chelene on the issues. Are you saying that she doesn't really support 1070? All the other bad stuff I am hearing about her here doesn't appear to have anything to do with any kind of public issues. It sounds like all the obvious limitations of her candidacy, which are her availability to regular folks like us, also are generating a lot of personal contempt. I can sympathize, but I'd still like to know where she is falling down on the issues, if at all. Where does she stand on Proposition 19?
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You're asking the wrong guy about chelena's stance on the issues. I've come to know her as a lying, dishonest, manipulative, megalomaniac. I don't take what people like that say to heart anymore. If they lie to me, or about me, or about people I know, why wouldn't they lie to thier constituents to get elected? |
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I don't know the cases you are talking about. The only thing I or anyone else sees is other posters talking the same way and no instances spoken of there either. Even at the personal level, it seems that the rest of us aren't required to have a clue, we are just susposed to take cues from the rest of you who have more direct experience. Chelene -- notice the easy use of the first name -- is the only California candidate, as far as I know supporting 1070. But the only thing you have to show skepticism for that support is personal experience and no instances to report. How many people tuning in here don't know you any more than they know Chelene?
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Not that people haven't seen through her already; I'm sure they have. That's why she hasn't seen a rush to her forum, or to her donations box. |
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If we can collect a body of criticism based on some observations that we can all share, we can lay them at Chelene's feet and expect some kind of credible response. She is a candidate and needs to respond to the general public. Her party affliations are not an issue at this point. For example, if she does not sincerely support 1070, then we need to see some substance in her stand on the issue.
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Go ahead and try yourself... |
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Her position on the issues is largely irrelevant. She's a liar ... to the marrow. The one thing to which Chelene has shown unwavering loyalty has been what she considers her own best interests. Every time, no exceptions. When pushed, she chooses to serve herself. She's sacrificed friendships, nearly destroyed a successful activist entity, and enthusiastically attacked the reputations of folks who were accomplishing a lot more than her in the fight against illegal immigration (Ray and Robin and the Campo folks top that list). She's willing to have substantial prices paid if she believes it holds for her some manner of benefit. The point being, when push comes to shove, she'll abandon her positions if she thinks such will land her recognition, votes or whatever else she needs to stay in the public eye. Chelene's welfare, uber alles. That's the governing principle. That's what the record evidences. However, if you're still curious as to what she's peddling as an office seeker, her stated positions are on her website.
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Nothing is happening over there at the forums anyway.
Somewhere before November, the candidates for governor are going to have to say something about Proposition 19. I can wait.
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Yesterday, Thursday August fifth 2010, on the very popular Los Angeles California John and Ken radio show a caller mentioned Chelene Nightingale as an alternative to the horrible Meg Whitman.
Meg who had been on the John and Ken show the day before left the listeners and talk show hosts with the well founded opinion that she is nothing more than Schwarzenegger wearing a dress. After having defeated Steve Poizner and stating that she would be hard as nails on illegal immigration Meg has proceeded to play hide and seek and dodge ball with an increasingly angry American populace that demand straight talk on a variety of issues. The Democrat and Republican party having disaffected the American people have now opened the gates to a fledgling third, though admittedly weak , party movement. John of KFI mentioned that he had not heard of Nightingale but that they planned to have the candidates of all the parties on the show. An acquaintance of mine said that he had heard at least two other callers in previous days mention Chelene to the radio hosts. A dimension missing with the information given to voters regarding the candidates presented by political parties to the voters is an honest evaluation and analysis of who their candidates are and what they stand for. Meg Whitman could not have lied her way out of who she is and the Republican party would not have accepted her as a candidate any more than the Democrats could have consciously hawked Obama on us. One must ponder what an analysis of who Chelene is and what she espouses along with character traits would yield. Chelene will have an opportunity to be heard on the John and ken show sometime soon. It is logical to assume that she will then have broken through the barriers of local anonymity. She will then be invited to speak on other shows. The outcome will be that Meg the Rhino will buy the election or that Jerry Brown the clown will win. Chelene having tasted some success will probably run for office again shortly. |
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