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Old 02-05-2011, 01:25 PM
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Default Going Green, is only the cost of the green in your wallet.

This is something we all should know and it is a perfect example of how we are being manipulated with the so called "go green" crap.


Some of you may not know what Title 24 is.(at the end of this post is a description) Here in California all new construction or major remodel must comply with Title 24. Basically it requires that fluorescent fixtures be used instead of incandescent lamps, in all new construction. With commercial it's watts per sq ft, and with residential it's percentage of hardwired lighting installed in the residence. And as many of you know incandescent lights will not be sold after 2014, so basically everyone will have to replace their light fixtures with fluorescent (with dedicated sockets) once they run out of replacement incandescent lamps as they burn out.

That's where some real big questions arise. Most, if not all, of the fluorescent fixtures are either made in China or not in the USA. Also, the fluorescent lamps are mostly made in China or not in the USA. So, just imagine what swapping out all the fixtures in the state of California, both commercial and residential, will cost our citizens, and all that money will be going out of the country.

But, I must also add that the cost of one fluorescent lamp (not the long tubes, but the globe or compacted style with a dedicated socket) ranges from $5 to $15 each. Even online they land up costing about this when you add in shipping. Now compare that to incandescent which run as cheep as 25 cents each. Another thing I should point out is that our good old incandescent lamps give off a very white light. The fluorescent lamps try to do this, but it costs the customer up to 30% more for that feature. It is called Kalven (k), which is the color of the light given off by the lamp. Fluorescent lamps range between 2,500k to 5,000k, the higher the k the whiter the light and the more you pay.
The CFL (compact fluorescent lamps) with the screw on base are not actual fluorescent lamps, (these were given away free to customers by their electric companies to get people to replace their incandescent lamps). These CFL were put on the market to get the public used to the look of the fluorescent lamps, but actually the light (Lumens=actual amount of light given off) is less per watt than the incandescent and the CFL are actually less efficient, but the public was told they were more efficient. This is a lie, when you compare the Watts (which is the energy used) with the Lumens, which is the actual light given off, the incandescent are more efficient when you compare wattage with lumens. But the public has been lied to and by doing so got the public used to the thought of using fluorescent and that was the goal. One of the obvious manipulations associated with this go green scam.

This is just a taste of what so called "going green" is going to cost each household. You have to wonder if China had a huge hand in forcing this to happen, after all, that's who is prospering the most.

Next time you're at the hardware store or where lighting is sold, look at where the fixtures are manufactured along with the lamps and consider how many will have to be bought in the next few years. Yes, all that money pretty much going to China, and our politicians forced us to do it.

This story below is an example of how our government has wasted tax dollars, just to see them go to China.


Green Jobs Are Not Evergreen Jobs
After receiving at least $43 million in aid from the state of Massachusetts, Evergreen Solar announced last month that it would be closing its manufacturing plant in Devens, Mass., laying off its 800 workers and moving its manufacturing operations to China.
Warning: These are the "green jobs" that President Obama has touted as part of his "winning the future" agenda.
The problem isn't that Obama wants to direct federal dollars toward research for alternative energy. It is in the national interest to have affordable options when oil sources are depleted.
The problem is that Obama thinks that green jobs are the answer to the anemic economy recovery. And he clings to that belief in the face of contrary evidence.
Last May, the president came to solar-panel manufacturer Solyndra in Fremont, Calif., to celebrate a new plant -- creating 3,000 construction jobs and 1,000 permanent workers. President Obama exclaimed, "The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra."
Within months, Solyndra, which has yet to turn a profit, announced that it was canceling the expansion. Solyndra, the San Jose Mercury News reported, has shifted more than half of its production to -- you guessed it -- China.
At best, you can describe Obamaland's choice of venue as bad advance work.
Michael El-Hillow, Evergreen Solar's chief executive, explained in a statement the reason for his company's move: "While the United States and other western industrial economies are beneficiaries of rapidly declining installation costs of solar energy, we expect the United States will continue to be at a disadvantage from a manufacturing standpoint."
Evergreen is -- this month anyway -- the third-largest solar panel manufacturer in the United States. The Massachusetts plant opened in 2008 with much fanfare and generous taxpayer assistance. But just one year later, The New York Times reported, company suits were talking to Chinese officials, who could offer cheaper labor -- average monthly wages below $300 as opposed to $5,400 in the Bay State -- sweetheart loans and other incentives.
Harvard economist Edward L. Glaeser saw Evergreen leave Massachusetts and opined in The New York Times that while he believed investing in green technology, "(I)t always was a mistake to think that clean energy was going to be a jobs bonanza."
And: "We shouldn't pretend that cheaper solar energy will end up employing millions of our less-skilled citizens."
This leaves American solons with two choices: Keep feeding the meter -- or cut your losses.
The high cost of subsidizing wind and solar power should seal the deal. According to the California Energy Commission, the cost of photovoltaic solar electricity is about 26 cents per kilowatt hour, as opposed to 13 cents for electricity powered by natural gas.
With the unemployment rate at 9 percent, Washington should be looking to create jobs that aren't going to run to China. Or, as Jack Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute, told The New York Times, "If the president really were serious about job creation, he would be working with us to develop American oil and gas by American workers for American consumers."
American Enterprise Institute senior fellow Steven F. Hayward likes to ask people which state has the lowest unemployment rate. The answer is North Dakota, with an unemployment rate of 3.8 percent. "The reason is they've had a huge oil and gas boom," Hayward explained. They've tripled their oil output.
As the price of oil spills over the $100-per-barrel mark, Washington ought to reconsider the "green jobs" approach. As Hayward noted, "Brown energy creates jobs and prosperity."



CCR, Title 24
California Code of Regulations (CCR), Title 24, also known as the California Building Standards Code, is a compilation of three types of building standards from three different origins:
• Building standards that have been adopted by state agencies without change from building standards contained in national model codes
• Building standards that have been adopted and adapted from the national model code standards to meet California conditions
• Building standards, authorized by the California legislature, that constitute extensive additions not covered by the model codes that have been adopted to address particular California concerns
Notwithstanding, the national model code standards adopted into Title 24 apply to all occupancies in California except for modifications adopted by state agencies and local governing bodies. To learn more go to: About Title 24, a document intended to provide information and training on the application and use of Title 24.
Starting in 1989, the BSC has published triennial editions of Title 24 in their entirety every three years. Title 24 is available for purchase or available to the public at no cost through depository libraries. The following triennial editions have been published in their entirety:

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