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Originally Posted by Rim05
This is the kind of nonsense that has us so divided. WE do not work together any more. Not sure what to think our end will be.
I did not even know that Barbara Coe had died.
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Well, We'll have to wait and see if it's nonsense or not yet. All of the parties have had a direct impact on the movement in a positive fashion at some point. We have to decide independently whether any proven failures or misdeeds are more unworthy than positive influences performed. There's no shame or real harm in pointing out what you perceive as improprieties in a co-conspirator's actions performed in this effort. They can do both good and bad. They can also do some good, while lining pockets in a self-serving fashion. People can also get caught up in their own self-importance and let that be the driver behind their actions, but still bring attention to the effort. None of us are perfect.
I've always said we can still chew each other's asses while moving on our opposition.
What I don't like is some egocentric nazi-like persons attempting an ascent to total power and dictating who is good, and who is bad, all the while refusing to prove or even discuss the alleged infractions, and hiding behind their own walls of deceit.
Barbara Coe has always been given a wide berth here, and in my personal realm, despite the treatment she gave me after the cockroach started bending her ear behind closed doors. I've always felt she did too much good overall to let that be a distraction. The cockroach is another matter altogether. She had this wonderful public face here, but off camera, and in person, she was a manipulative, deceitful power monger. She still hasn't paid back our member Frank,..it's been years since he obtained a judgement against her, and yet she's publicly beating down Gilchrist for money mismanagement.
Jim Gilchrist is a bit enigmatic. Without a doubt, he brought a huge amount of interest to our cause. All the charges people leveled at him may have foundation, but you'd have to be a party to it to understand it all. The most injurious thing I perceived in public terms was his presidential endorsements. That hurt his credibility and made us all question his objectivity. These people who dealt with him on a daily basis have pressed their case forward and had judges vindicate them lately. you'll all have to read that up and decide.