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Old 08-15-2011, 08:26 PM
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These are entirely different groups of people:

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Ortiz, 53, whose grandfather came from Mexico.
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Oaxacan families clustered in overcrowded apartments and garages,
In spite of what a lot of clueless white Americans believe and what agenda laden fertilizer race obsessed American "Latino activists" calculatingly dispense, there is quite often a lot of friction between the two groups.

Someone whose Grandfather came from Mexico doesn't ordinarily have a lot in common with the new arrivals, and Mexicans can push the point hard that those born in America aren't "Mexican", that rude, backwards foreigners from Mexico are somehow the cultural superiors to anyone born in America with a brown skin and Spanish last name. On the other hand, real Indians from Mexico are yet again something different from cultural majority mestizo Mexico.

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In Mexico, Rivera-Salgado said, indigenous people are treated with prejudice, considered uneducated and inferior.
Which is true.

Bedsides, no one is an "immigrant" by virtue of their ancestry. The above mentioned Ortiz is no different in American citizenship than anyone who has blue blood ancestry from the Mayflower. As well, her grandparents most likely grew up during the depression, may even have been young witnesses to the Mexican Revolution, and her parents born in America just before or during the early years of WWII, a largely different world than we live in now. Both of her grandmothers and one grandfather may have been born in the US, and who knows before that.

The suggestion that at least third generation Ortiz is merely a disgruntled older version of modern border hoppers plays right into the hands of gleeful brown racists, and the article panders to them by saying

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because the split here pits immigrants rooted in the same country
Which is bullshit.

Someone like Ortiz might not like Mexicans and want them gone from her city or even deported, but perceiving white hostility in confusing her with illegal Mexicans who should be deported might feel pushed into sympathizing with the brown racial agenda. And there will be a "Latino activist" there to remind such a person at every turn of every real, exaggerated, and fabricated tale of white on brown discrimination.

The multi generational thing and oftentimes burden for those with Latin American ancestry is not black and white nor cast in stone.

I see the contradictory mixture of the first generation born in America in my own household on a daily basis.
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