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Old 03-28-2011, 06:11 AM
wetibbe wetibbe is offline
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Default Arizona planning map

Here is an Atlas map of Arizona useful for orientation, recon and planning:

http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printab...edlands/AZ.pdf

It can be seen that there is a vast amount of Federal lands, National Forests, Reserves, Preserves, BLM, Military bases. And Indian reservations.

According to reports much of this land is very poorly surveilled.

* The illegals pass over practically within sight of the buildings on Fort Huachuca which is the military secret training facility.

* They cross the Barry Goldwater bombing range.

* They now have preferred routes through pristine wilderness areas where the Department of Interior forbids CBP and DHS to enter with motorized vehicles - " To preserve the wilderness ". *( And where piles of tons of garbage are dumped along with hulks of abandoned vehicles ) !!!!!!! *( And where brush fires burn ).

* The large Tohono O'Odham Indian reservation is autonomous,sovereign nation land policed by tribal officers. They can't cope with the volume of invaders. This is also where the religious factions set out water barrels for the aliens. This reservation straddles the border and part of it is also on the Mexican side. Since it is sovereign land the US Federal Government cannot build fences without permission and the tribal leaders are opposed to fencing.

* In the areas on Federal and private land where hunting is permitted the hunters often see the mules packing and there is some sort of a "truce" effect where the mules don't bother the hunters and the hunters don't bother the mules.

* Three years ago it was being reported that the cartel lookouts sat on 50 mountain tops. Recently the number was being estimated at 75 to 100 up-to 200 miles into Arizona.

* Government offices *( Outside of DHS ) are now reporting that only 44% of the border is under some sort of control.

* The actual measured count of double and triple fence approved by congress that was actually built was 35 miles, whereas DHS is claiming 750 miles. What actually occurred was that DHS substituted/installed old rail road rails and called them "vehicle barriers". They did nothing to stop foot traffic and the traffickers simply built portable ramps to drive over .

* DHS spent $4 billion on Boeing's failed "virtual fence" instead of the physical hardware, nuts and bolts "Israeli style fence". Now as pointed out after 8 years of George Bush and two years of Barack Obama the border is still only 44% secure !

Some conspiracy theorists were mumbling about possible corrupt US Government elements collaboration with the Mexican drug cartels and now we find that our BATF was really and truly seriously involved in trafficking thousands of arms to the cartels !!

I always harbored the feeling that Vicente Fox was actually condoning the trafficking of drugs and was either aiding and abetting or turning a blind eye to it. Now he is advocating that the USA "legalize narcotics" !

Lamentably our CBP has a distance limit from the border where they no longer chase invaders, beyond which it is the inadequate County Sheriffs problem and they are understaffed and poorly equipped.

My thoughts would be that a new Minuteman effort would better serve everyone by stationing volunteers back away from the border on ranches where the ranchers see them and know the infiltration routes and up on the mountain tops where the lookouts hide. And where the trail cameras have already located and identified the routes used by vehicles and foot traffic.

Last edited by wetibbe; 03-28-2011 at 06:31 AM.
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