We need talking points, give us your thoughts
We need some talking points for the upcoming rally that members can use when being addressed by the media or others. Please give some suggestions, such as the financial impact with facts cited from reliable sources, or social impacts on neighborhoods such as crime.
Please participate because your input is important. Some of you live great distances from where we’re having the rally, but your input can still be used. |
I don't have statistics at hand this moment, but:
The displacement of American workers in whole industries since the early 1980's. why real wages have fallen like a rock tossed into a well since the early 1980's. Education, costs and results now vs. 1960's - what has changed and why. Why is it that Utah spends the least on education with high results, and why California is cranking out illiterate kids with - regardless of what the CTA peddles - over half our runaway state budget going to education. This would have to be nuanced - Elements of Mexican and Latin American cultures which, if not diluted and assimilated to a great degree, brings Latin American problems with them. Such as: We at least have a pretension of blind justice in this country and a lot of times it works, but a Mexican will generally equate hiring an attorney with bribing the judge, as is the proper course in Mexico. The Mexican system of "good old boy" "networking", nepotism, ubiquitous bribery and shake downs in general and the palm greasing necessary in order to do business, and general corruption in which embezzlement from public and private employers is considered to be deserved compensation. It leaves our ciminally bent scum in high places far behind in the dust. Mexican fatalism and hopelessness for change imbedded within the culture and expressed through its citizens. Welfare fraud and federal subsidization of illegality needs to be brought out as well, but how to do it without being characterized as foaming at the mouth bigots. Perhaps pictures contrasting the homes of "Latino activist" legislators and others who live on the hill and run down barrios which they claim are "vibrant communities enriching America". Pre 1980 pictures depicting the change would probably be essential. It would be interesting to see what sort of home Janet Murguia lives in and where: making her living peddling racial discord, I bet she doesn't live in the middle of what she insists is good for the rest of us. Nor do I believe she would actually enjoy it. That might be a good exercise for other public and "activist" figures as well. How about the the reality disconnect and real estate gulf that Barbara Boxer has between herself the average American Citizen - and the fact that she doesn't have to live with the results of her preferred immigration legislation. I would like to see something which would show the difference between Mexican Nationals and those who pretend to be Mexican - and how many actually regard each other when no one else is around to see their dirt - but that truth would be hard to get across with the sheer mountain of propaganda which has been dispensed and digested over the last forty years and all the people who gain in some manner from perpetuating the myth. |
Here is Murguia's official NCLR biography. She for sure doesn't slum around in San'tana.
She's probably as distant from Mexico as I am (white boy who grew up in California), and in the same reality disconnect as Boxer. It's all about race. Quote:
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Races in Kansas City: • White Non-Hispanic (48.9%) • Black (30.1%) • Hispanic (16.8%) • Other race (8.6%) • Two or more races (3.0%) • American Indian (1.7%) • Other Asian (1.1%) Ancestries: German (11.5%), Irish (8.3%), United States (6.2%), English (4.8%), French (1.8%), Polish (1.3%). Population density: 1147 people per square mile (low) • High school or higher: 73.4% • Bachelor's degree or higher: 11.7% • Graduate or professional degree: 4.3% • Unemployed: 8.5% • Mean travel time to work: 21.4 minutes Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2008: 20.9% 14,647 residents are foreign born (8.1% Latin America, 1.2% Asia). This city: 10.0% Kansas: 5.0% Let’s compare that with East Los Angeles Races in East Los Angeles: • Hispanic (96.8%) • Other race (54.0%) • Two or more races (4.2%) • White Non-Hispanic (1.8%) • American Indian (1.7%) • Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2008: 25.5% 60,605 residents are foreign born (48.2% Latin America). This place: 48.8% California: 26.2% Ancestries: United States (1.4%). Population density: 17279 people per square mile (very high). Maywood, California Races in Maywood: • Hispanic (96.3%) • Other race (50.5%) • Two or more races (4.5%) • White Non-Hispanic (2.6%) • American Indian (1.4%) Population density: 24007 people per square mile (very high). For population 25 years and over in Maywood * High school or higher: 29.6% * Bachelor's degree or higher: 2.3% * Graduate or professional degree: 0.8% * Unemployed: 11.4% * Mean travel time to work: 29.2 minutes Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Maywoo...#ixzz0bEWmow2y 15,490 residents are foreign born (54.8% Latin America). This city: 55.2% California: 26.2% Residents with income below the poverty level in 2008: This city: 24.5% Whole state: 14.2% Residents with income below 50% of the poverty level in 2008: This city: 8.5% Whole state: 6.3% This city: 4.3 people California: 2.9 people Percentage of family households: This city: 88.1% Whole state: 68.9% Percentage of households with unmarried partners: This city: 8.4% Whole state: 5.9% |
I haven't verified it, but this is supposed to be a Janet Murgia quote. If it really is, it just goes to show how whacked out a person can get:
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She also had something to do with producing Desperate Housewives as well as everything else she has her fingers into.. |
Another article about Murguia.
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• "The U.S. Census Bureau showed that the nation's immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached nearly 38 million in March 2007, one-third of which are comprised of illegal immigrants."
(Center for Immigration Studies). "There are approximately 7.7 million illegal aliens employed in U.S. jobs in 2008." (NumbersUSA). "A 1997 study by the American Academy of Sciences found that the cheap labor of illegal immigrants and poor immigrants caused a 44% decrease in wages among the poorest Americans from 1980 to 1994." (Center for Immigration Studies). • "Amnesty for illegal immigrants will cause costs to increase significantly from $10.4 billion a year to $28.8 billion. This is because an amnesty program would transform an illegal immigrant to an "unskilled immigrant with legal status" who could access various government programs. However, due to low income, these "unskilled immigrants with legal status" would likely make very modest tax payments." (Center for Immigration Studies). • "Tax payments in illegal households are only 28% of other households primarily due to much lower levels in education, which subsequently results in low incomes and even lower tax payments." (Center for Immigration Studies). • "A strategy of attrition through enforcement, which includes mandatory workplace verification and measures to curb misuse of Social Security numbers, could reduce the illegal population by as many as 1.5 million illegal immigrants each year." (Center for Immigration Studies). • " Illegal immigrants collectively represent a group that is a significant menace to the public. 80% have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and 40% have violent crime histories." (Center for Immigration Studies). • "25-50% of all gangsters arrested in the criminal gang suppression efforts in northern and western Virginia are estimated to be illegal immigrants." (Study for Immigration Studies). More found here: http://www.endillegalimmigration.com...cs/index.shtml |
Here is some information on Murguia at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Murgu%C3%ADa I think it is a poor strategy to confront personalities at public rallies, especially when all they represent is some leadership in some opposition organization. This rally would be a good time and place to remind everyone that this immigration issue is not strictly a Mexican problem, but a problem from all different countries encompasing all different races, Europeans as well. And also it is a problem causing suffering in other countries besides the US and European countries as well. This would completely disarm the race baiting Reconquistas and leave them carrying water for people outside their organization -- people who are not latinos -- and people in other countries. The more you emphasize the universal nature of the problem, the more pointless the attendence of people from the NCLR will be, since they will be the only people who show up in support of illegal immigration. Everybody else will be getting a free ride from them. And any efforts on their parts to pick up the slack from anyone else is bound to carry them into the issue of terrorism from immigrant communities, something they will most certainly want to be avoiding. A little news item to meditate on: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8435857.stm Yet another person from a Muslim country abuses some country's vital gun laws, this time it is personal not religious, but who can tell the difference any more? |
Interesting exercise - Go to this url: www.janetmurguia.com
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