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Borderwatch 05-14-2010 06:22 PM

Protest at Laker Game Monday
 
The Illegal Alien Supporters are going to Protest Phil Jackson at the Laker game Monday. I mention this because John and Ken talked about it and they are going to try to have a reporter there. So you live in LA and you can go by and support Arizona, you might get an interview on KFI.

http://orangejuiceblog.com/2010/05/p...ter-on-may-17/

Jeanfromfillmore 05-14-2010 07:47 PM

Thanks for the info, but I say out of LA. I don't even want to use my gas in that town.

MowMyOwn 05-14-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderwatch (Post 9081)
The Illegal Alien Supporters are going to Protest Phil Jackson at the Laker game Monday. I mention this because John and Ken talked about it and they are going to try to have a reporter there. So you live in LA and you can go by and support Arizona, you might get an interview on KFI.

http://orangejuiceblog.com/2010/05/p...ter-on-may-17/

This is laughable. The only thing I'm aware of that Phil Jackson said was he didn't think the NBA should be involved in the politics.

These protesters are making fools of themselves.

Rim05 05-15-2010 03:31 AM

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This is laughable. The only thing I'm aware of that Phil Jackson said was he didn't think the NBA should be involved in the politics.

These protesters are making fools of themselves.
You are so right. I do hope Phil Jackson, the Laker team and fans stay out of the political stuff. There are many Hispanic fans at the games so you know they want to start some of the usual trash.
They have been making fools of them selves for years, that is all they know.

Patriotic Army Mom 05-15-2010 07:25 AM

They will do more stupid stuff and wake up a million more Americans!

Kathy63 05-16-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MowMyOwn (Post 9084)
This is laughable. The only thing I'm aware of that Phil Jackson said was he didn't think the NBA should be involved in the politics.

These protesters are making fools of themselves.

According to a report I heard, that is exactly what they are protesting.

MowMyOwn 05-16-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathy63 (Post 9125)
According to a report I heard, that is exactly what they are protesting.

That's why it's laughable. . . Alvin Gentry (the Suns coach) stayed mum on the issue too, it's not their position. This is the playoffs, the coaches know the focus is to be on the trophy, not making political statements.

Jeanfromfillmore 05-16-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MowMyOwn (Post 9126)
That's why it's laughable. . . Alvin Gentry (the Suns coach) stayed mum on the issue too, it's not their position. This is the playoffs, the coaches know the focus is to be on the trophy, not making political statements.

I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

DerailAmnesty.com 05-16-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderwatch (Post 9081)
The Illegal Alien Supporters are going to Protest Phil Jackson at the Laker game Monday. I mention this because John and Ken talked about it and they are going to try to have a reporter there. So you live in LA and you can go by and support Arizona, you might get an interview on KFI.

http://orangejuiceblog.com/2010/05/p...ter-on-may-17/


That's hilarious. Phil Jackson. Somehow I don't get the impression he's a charter member of the John Birch Society or someone the GOP is exactly counting on for campaign contributions.

They're getting desperate. They're running out of complaints to make.

MowMyOwn 05-16-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore (Post 9135)
I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynami...ba_595945l.jpg

Jeanfromfillmore 05-17-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MowMyOwn (Post 9142)
This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynami...ba_595945l.jpg

I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

Twoller 05-17-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore (Post 9135)
I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. Sports today are not about the sport anymore, its become a vicarious way to feel power transferred from a sports team. That's why gangs identify with them. The sport itself is a commercial enterprise. Real love for the games are played where money isn't exchanged.

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Originally Posted by MowMyOwn (Post 9142)
This has got to be one of the nuttiest posts I've ever seen.

Really. . . seriously. . . you're giving way too much credit to the fringe.

http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynami...ba_595945l.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore (Post 9146)
I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

Jeanfromfillmore, you really nailed it that time. Field sports as they exist under our Roman occupation are a waste of time. Yes, that is why the gangs love professional teams and players and identify with them so much.

I'll go even further and say that professional sports are fake competition, just like big time wrestling. It's all sucked up in chasing records, boosting ratings and selling crap.

Have you ever seen Little League Baseball? It's an expensive kiddie parade where the first job is to dignify the conspicuous consumption of professional sports. The tiny little uniforms, the immaculate fields perfectly scaled down and all the technical adornments, it's all pretty weird. Somewhere the kids are supposed to be having fun, but the adults are the ones showing the most excitement.

MowMyOwn 05-17-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanfromfillmore (Post 9146)
I didn't give anyone credit. I have no idea what you are referring to. I wasn't implying that they would get anywhere with what they were doing. It seamed the your post was confused as to who was protesting who and why. Actually I don't care what happens in sports, they bore me.

I'm not a sports fan of any sorts. Today most are a cross between the Olympics and Roman sacrifice.

Your post in bold is what I was originally saying (about it being "laughable"), so we agree on that point. These protesters will do more harm and embarrassment to their own "movement".
As far as "gangs identifying", sports rivalry has been around forever, like politics 'rivalry'. But saying "I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. is just nutty to me, and it won't happen.
These gangs hardly raise a blip on the radar of national and world sports.

MowMyOwn 05-17-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller (Post 9159)
Jeanfromfillmore, you really nailed it that time. Field sports as they exist under our Roman occupation are a waste of time. Yes, that is why the gangs love professional teams and players and identify with them so much.

It's in the mind of the beholder. . .

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I'll go even further and say that professional sports are fake competition, just like big time wrestling. It's all sucked up in chasing records, boosting ratings and selling crap.
Darn those sports! All those fans, all that money, all those jobs, all those businesses all that revenue, it's just all so bad for our economy and American way.

Dude, you need to get some air. . .

Twoller 05-17-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MowMyOwn (Post 9168)
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As far as "gangs identifying", sports rivalry has been around forever, like politics 'rivalry'. But saying "I believe what is being pointed to is the reconquestas are protesting because they want all sports to become involved in their reconquest. is just nutty to me, and it won't happen.
These gangs hardly raise a blip on the radar of national and world sports.

Sports rivalry has always been an infection on any society it crops up in. You couldn't possibly be paying attention and miss the endless riots and violence that accompany soccer games, for example, and how that violence reflects struggles going on both on the street and politically. Some gangs actually start as groups of sports fans.

Don 05-17-2010 12:46 PM

Years ago I read Frederick Douglass' autobiography and he recounted how the slave owners would give slaves time off over the Xmas holidays and provided ulimited liquor and tried to keep them involved in physical things such as running, wrestling and fighting each other. Douglass said it was considered a disgrace not to be drunk and slaves who made productive use of their leisure time were frowned upon by the master.

He also said, "A slave who was drunk gave no thought of liberty or escape to the north. It was the sober thoughtful slave who was a threat to the master's security."

This hit me like a thunderclap! It dawned on me that most people I know spend their holidays watching athetic events on TV while they sit on their couch drugging themselves with alocohol. I have never found a single redeeming thing about professional athletics. They only originated in the late 1800's and have not been much of a blessing for our civilization.

MowMyOwn 05-17-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Twoller (Post 9175)
Sports rivalry has always been an infection on any society it crops up in. You couldn't possibly be paying attention and miss the endless riots and violence that accompany soccer games, for example, and how that violence reflects struggles going on both on the street and politically. Some gangs actually start as groups of sports fans.

I'm sorry you're this shallow and only see the [very slight] dark side of sports.

The other side of rivalry is comradery.

MowMyOwn 05-17-2010 02:57 PM

Here's the article;
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LOS ANGELES - Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson refused to criticize Arizona's new immigration law, triggering a backlash among activists who plan a protest outside Staples Center on Monday night.

Jackson was asked two weeks ago about a plan by the Phoenix Suns to wear their Los Suns jerseys during a playoff game on May 5, Cinco de Mayo. The immigration law spurred the Suns' decision to use the jerseys to honor Arizona's Latino community.

"Am I crazy, or am I the only one that heard when the legislators said that we just took United States immigration law and adapted it to our state?' " Jackson responded.

When the reporter suggested that Arizona had usurped federal law, Jackson corrected him. "It's not usurping, they just copied it, is what they said they did, the legislators. Then they give it some teeth to be able to enforce it."

The biggest questions about the law center on how it could be enforced without leading to racial profiling of Hispanics and without alienating residents in Hispanic neighborhoods with whom police have spent years trying to build trust.

The law, which is scheduled to take effect July 29, has triggered protests and prompted several cities to boycott Arizona businesses. Los Angeles is the largest of those cities.

"I have respect for those who oppose the new Arizona immigration law, but I am wary of putting entire sports organizations in the middle of political controversies," Jackson said in a statement issued Monday.

He said he hoped his statement would not be used by either side to rally activists.

Activists want the Lakers to put on the Los Lakers jerseys they wore for a game on March 21 and in years past to honor Hispanic fans. Lakers spokesman John Black said those jerseys will not be worn during the playoffs.

"We will not be getting involved in choosing sides among our many different support groups in any debate, nor will we be getting involved in political issues of this nature," Black said.

"Our focus and goal at this time is on basketball, winning games, and hopefully winning another championship, which we feel the vast majority of our fans want us to focus on," he added.

A standing 'O' for Phil!

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...#ixzz0oEKRfWyH

PochoPatriot 05-17-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Don (Post 9177)
They only originated in the late 1800's and have not been much of a blessing for our civilization.

Aside from ushering in the Civil Rights movement through the Brooklyn Dodgers integration of baseball, they have done a damn thing. :rolleyes:

LAPhil 05-17-2010 03:37 PM

Right on, Phil Jackson! I really hope the Lakers kick the asses of those Hispandering "Los Suns". A Laker sweep would be some great poetic justice!

DerailAmnesty.com 05-17-2010 07:31 PM

It was a whole lot of not much at Staples Center just before the game. The open borders loons had to behave b/c there were cops all over the place, and more significantly, they were sort of competing for attention with the Born Again Christians who had superior numbers, larger signs, and were attempting to encroach on their territory.

All in all, I was pretty underwhelmed. No accusations of racism. No hollering that this is occupied Mexican territory. Not even so much as a whisper of gratuitous profanity.

What the hell is this world coming to?


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq4NI5LabTo

Rim05 05-17-2010 08:21 PM

Thanks for the video of the clowns. I was worried about the Lakers because Phil said Kobe did not practice all week. I guess Kobe knows his body better than any one else.
GO LAKERS AND THANK YOU LAKER ORG. FOR STAYING OUT OF THE POLITICS.

PochoPatriot 05-18-2010 12:11 PM

The open borders crowd was uncharacteristically well-mannered.

Don 05-18-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PochoPatriot (Post 9215)
The open borders crowd was uncharacteristically well-mannered.

Not well mannered, just outnumbered. They have no manners. They're savages who will rise when they have the numbers on their side.

LAPhil 05-18-2010 12:44 PM

Here's an example of the open-mindedness of the Phoenix Suns' staff (excerpted):

Freedom of Expression? Not if it's about Illegal Immigration
By Bobby Eberle May 18, 2010 7:13 AM

As a show of opposition to the Arizona law, the owner of the Phoenix Suns professional basketball team had his team don "Los Suns" jerseys for a playoff game. The move garnered national media attention. But Phoenix Suns fan Jim Clark had a different idea. During Game 2 of the playoffs between the Suns and the San Antonio Spurs, Clark wore an orange shirt which read, "Viva Los 1070." What was the result? He was kicked out of the game by Suns' security!

As noted in The Daily Caller, Clark and a friend "were ejected from their first row seats and removed from the arena last week after refusing orders from security guards to take off their shirts in support of Arizona's recently passed law against illegal immigration."

This is not the first occurrence of politics creeping into the Suns basketball games: On Cinco de Mayo, team owner Robert Sarver came up with the idea for the team to wear "Los Suns" on their jerseys in protest of the immigration law. That's what drove Clark to don his own shirt.

"If they're going to shove their politics down my throat, I'm going make a message of my own," Clark told The Daily Caller.
Phoenix's ABC affiliate web site, quoted Clark as saying, "I didn't go there (game) to hear about politics, I went there to be entertained."

Soon after the game started, according to Clark, he was approached by security at US Airways Center.

"They (security) looked like secret service talking on their microphones, then they told me I either had to take off the shirt, turn it inside out or leave, so they decided to throw us out," said Clark.

Clark said he and a friend argued with members of the security staff outside the building and were eventually allowed to return to their seats.
The best comment to come from Clark was his correlation between what the security officials were doing and what the Arizona law is supposed to do: "The irony of the whole thing is, they (security) wanted to see our tickets, they wanted to see our papers, they wanted to see if everything was in order with us," said Clark.

This will likely not be the end of the story. Clark told The Daily Caller that he has printed 500 similar shirts with more on the way.

So... an Arizona mans stands up and supports a law which is designed to crack down on illegal activity and enforce immigration laws, and he is the bad guy? I guess freedom of expression comes with a great big asterisk next to it. It only applies if you speak out against America and the American way of life.

http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/2010/0...mmigration.php


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